New to Parker Collecting

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Edgar, did you hear the man say the barrel lug was marked "2" and not "0"? We need to know a lot more about this gun before we can appraise it at $7500. As Art Carney would say "Sheesh!" To let you off the hook, that serial number seems to be a 28" 28 gauge straight grip gun.

We've seen a number of Parkers in all gauges, frame sizes and grades where there is no frame size on the lug but other stamps are sometimes there.
I don't believe that 2 represents the frame size or even the 2 from 28 gauge with na light, invisible strike of the 8.





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[Daniel Gates]

These are the pictures I took everything else looked normal to me as for fit and finish. Everything Locked up tight the barrels had some minimal pitting just past the forcing cone and none of the screws were messed up on the bottom and all pointed north south. I’m just curious on some things since it’s the first one iv seen up here. I find quite a few VH PH and GH 12s but my first time coming across a 28 especially with an straight grip

[edgarspencer]

Far from the worst refinishing job. Case hardening colors are not representative of Meriden's work, but done by someone who at least knows the temperatures the process requires. at least they're not cyanide. Little bit of pitting left on the bbls, but at least they are cold rust blued. Some may say that's high, I'm not one of them. 28ga is the flavor of the month, has been for a while, and shows no signs of letting off. I've seen plenty way above that. Put on your best bargaining pants and give it a shot, you will be smiling soon.

[Researcher]

What is up with the 2 on the barrel lug? I that serial number range I'd expect a W.K. in oval on the left barrel flat.

[Daniel Gates]

The 2 had me thrown off when I was looking at it,that’s why I reached out to the professionals I’m merely a beginner when it comes most of these old girls!

[Brush Buster]

I don't know why the barrel lug is stamped with a #2 but I do notice the Unstruck barrel weight at 3LB. 8 Oz. and that seems to me to be pretty heavy for an O Framed 28 Gauge , that's getting into 16 Gauge 1 Frame range ! Most 20 Gauge guns are just below 3Lb. or just an ounce or so over !

[Bill Murphy]

First "2" I've seen on a rear lug in 65 years of messing with 28 gauge Parkers. I've never seen a 3-8 weight stamp on one either. I would buy that gun, looks like a nice one. I would get rid of those blued screws and be a happy camper. How about a picture of the rib legend.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Russ Jackson

I don't know why the barrel lug is stamped with a #2 but I do notice the Unstruck barrel weight at 3LB. 8 Oz. and that seems to me to be pretty heavy for an O Framed 28 Gauge , that's getting into 16 Gauge 1 Frame range ! Most 20 Gauge guns are just below 3Lb. or just an ounce or so over !

My 28" is marked 2lbs 14oz, and my 30" is marked 3lbs 4oz.
My experience is that the finished weight is between 2 and 5 ounces less, but I have seen at least one that I actually had to weigh because I thought the stamping was incorrect. They removed 10 ounces of solder and steel. Also, I believe the unstruck weight is pre final boring, so one could make the assumption a very open choked gun may have more than a few ounces of material removed.

[ArtS]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

My 28" is marked 2lbs 14oz, and my 30" is marked 3lbs 4oz.
My experience is that the finished weight is between 2 and 5 ounces less, but I have seen at least one that I actually had to weigh because I thought the stamping was incorrect. They removed 10 ounces of solder and steel. Also, I believe the unstruck weight is pre final boring, so one could make the assumption a very open choked gun may have more than a few ounces of material removed.

I compared several 10 and 12 gauge guns and found them surprisingly consistent as to weight removal. The outliers were the light weight guns but there was very little variance in barrel ID. They seemed to be very consistent as to final boring. I believe the difference was mostly striking the outside.

I actually considered the chokes at the time. I just checked again and a 12 gauge barrel having a 0.040 choke 3" long reamed out (assuming a straight taper) would only amount to around 0.5 oz or so a tube, depending on the tube alloy. It looks like going from a F/F to C/C would only drop a 12 gauge barrel set by 1 oz; quite a bit less on a 20.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer

I compared several 10 and 12 gauge guns and found them surprisingly consistent as to weight removal. The outliers were the light weight guns but there was very little variance in barrel ID. They seemed to be very consistent as to final boring. I believe the difference was mostly striking the outside.

Art, that should come as no surprise. Why would Parker alter their bores from the industry standard?
I would suspect the difference in weight between the pre-struck weights and the final weights should virtually always be from final striking. (Excluding some early over-bored hammer guns.)





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