Early 28 Gauge Production

[Dean Romig]

If I’m not mistaken Steve Fjestad owned it.






.

[edgarspencer]

Chuck, I should have been more specific. What I meant, was copy the stock books again, with a camera arrangement like you used to photograph the order books, in order to more completely cover the missing information on the grades below grade 3. As there are many consecutive pages, where those guns are included, it would be easy to eliminate those and concentrate on runs of serial numbers obviously missing. Perhaps I have over simplified what would be required.

[Jean Swanson]

Edgar

I think you have missed the point----the PGCA data base copied from the ORDER books already has ALL of the lower grade guns less than D's ( grade 3)in it. Not necessary to recopy the Order Books.

The authors of TPS data base is the missing link to ALL of the info in the STOCK books.

If you have questions, you have my home #---call me

Allan

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

Are there any plans to ask Roundhill LLC for access to the books in an effort to fill in the blanks on guns below grade 3? This group of guns makes up a significant number of additions to new, entry level collectors, and could be a significant source of new research letter revenue.

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

Edgar, there is no need to review the Order Books.

Originally Posted by Allan Swanson

Edgar

I think you have missed the point----the PGCA data base copied from the ORDER books already has ALL of the lower grade guns less than D's ( grade 3)in it. Not necessary to recopy the Order Books.

The authors of TPS data base is the missing link to ALL of the info in the STOCK books.

If you have questions, you have my home #---call me

Allan

Thank you Allan, but you and Chuck must have misread my post (see above.) I did NOT say anything about re-copying the order books. In my reply to Chuck, I reiterated that I was suggesting re-copying the STOCK books, and only those portions which previously omitted the data for guns below Grade 3.

[Bill Murphy]

As we all know, the stock book information which we don't have is of very little interest. All the interesting information, original owner in particular, is in the order books. Thanks, Allan and Bill, for your help. To give proper credit to Ron and his son, I believe three copy machines were donated. I may be wrong about that, however.

[Buck]

In the book 'Best Guns' by Michael McIntosh (copyright edition 1999), on page 8 (5th paragraph) it says "... in 1905, Parker built the first hammerless doubles in America chambered in 28-gauge." Those actually started out in 2 1/2" cartridge size.

[Bill Murphy]

Craig, I don't know what you just said, but welcome. I will repeat my statement that information in the stock books about grades lower than Grade 3 is of very little interest to Parker collectors and would be a monumental task to copy. For those not familiar with the stock books, be aware that the gun you have in your hand gives you about all the information you will get from the stock books. Allan, please comment.

[Researcher]

Originally Posted by Craig Haberthy

In the book 'Best Guns' by Michael McIntosh (copyright edition 1999), on page 8 (5th paragraph) it says "... in 1905, Parker built the first hammerless doubles in America chambered in 28-gauge." Those actually started out in 2 1/2" cartridge size.

Just because it is in print doesn't make it true.

[Dean Romig]

Thank you Craig.





.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Kevin McCormack

Attempting to definitively document an exact production date absent the "missing books" is akin to predicting the movement of hurricanes in the Atlantic using the US vs. the European models.

Wanna bring that up with a certain 5'2" woman with a Graduate degree in Applied Meteorology (Emphasis on Tropical Storms and Hurricanes)

Originally Posted by Craig Haberthy

In the book 'Best Guns' by Michael McIntosh (copyright edition 1999), on page 8 (5th paragraph) it says "... in 1905, Parker built the first hammerless doubles in America chambered in 28-gauge." Those actually started out in 2 1/2" cartridge size.

Darn that Research Director. I hope he doesn't have to pay back those vast sums collected on research letters for the over 100 28ga guns The Parker Story claims were made from 1900 to 1905.