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[charlie cleveland]

talk about a differance harry....what were you thinking... would love to hear the story.... and bill i dont think i would have owned up and said i had some of them good for nothing guns..ha my best to you gents... charlie

[Harry Collins]

I don't want to put words in Bill's mouth, but I took his statement to mean that worn out small bores were over priced.

Harry

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

next time i see a good parker big gun with color i will call you bill...hope thisdontdisapoint you boys but back in january in tupelo miss seen a 16 ga hammer gun that was nice go for 800.00 wish i had met the owner before he sold it....new owner would not talk about selling it...it was the least amount of wear on a parker that ive seen...gun not used enough to even open good....seen a nice no 2 lc smith with factory 27 inch barrels ejectors and the gold bar on barrels with best wood on a no2 i ever seen .. it had been refinished but it was not overdone...price 3600.00 a heavy duch model 12 winchester withlots of oringal color had 32 inch barrel 3 inch gun.... 1500.00 for this one....i know somebody that would have liked this one besides me.... francis it was nice....what a time to be broke.... charlie

-- Any `12 gauge M12 with original 32" barrel, whether plain or with solid rib will command a premium over the same conditioned M12 with 30" barrel- very few made, and most were in the 3" Magnum configuration-according to Riffle's M12 book- Charlie- a 2E 12 Smith with 27" barrels and a gold inset bar- usually on the quality pre-1913 Smiths you didn't see the gold bar inset in the top rib until you bought a Pigeon Grade- Did you get a chance to mesure the barrels and look over the gun? Smith did offer either 26", 27" or 28" barrels on their Skeet Special 12 gauges, but that was in the 1930's- they also then offered the HOT in either selective or non-selective mode- A good friend has a 12 FWE Skeet Special with 27" barrels, HOT selective, straight hand stock, checkered butt, and the later bulky schnabel style forearm.

[charlie cleveland]

i would have liked to have had that model 12 winchester with 32 inch barrel it was a nice gun...francis i looked that no2 grade lc smith over goo it had a letter with it stating the 27 inch barrel were factory... and thesigle selective trigger was also factory....the lc smith boys said a few of these gold bars come up every once in a while....i have a lc smith no 4 grade and it its a plain jane..no gold bar no ejectors and just fair lookin wood...some body must have just liked the engraving or didnot have the money to jazz the gun up... would you believe it were geting a pretty good snow as of now...looks like im gonna have to move north to get away from it...makes 4 th snow this year....we aint had 4 good snows in the last 40 years....guess ill get up and see if i can track a rabbit in the morning.... charlie