Chamber Pressure

[John Clement]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

John, I don't know about factory pressures on the AA's maybe Harry can answer that for you. I reload the black Remingtons and at best I get 4/5 reloads before they are junk. I think the AA's will last a bit longer.

The AA's I have are the old ones. They were great hulls, but I understand they no longer exist. I will find some loads and keep using those until they wear out, but I don't have very many of them. It seems that the Cheddites now have the reputation of lasting the longest, so I might as well just stock up on those.

I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the help. I am catching up on a lot of new information after about 15 years of little shooting and no reloading.

[Harry Collins]

John,

I would not worry about pressure in a VH. I do worry about recoil and how it might impact the old wood. In the Winchester reloading book they list this as a duplicate of factory 2 1/2 dram eq. promotional field load: WW 209 primer, 20.0 grains WSF, WAA16 wad, 1 oz shot, 1165 fps, 8400 psi.

Harry

[charlie cleveland]

harry that was good advise for the gun and a real decent load to boot...thanks charlie

[John Clement]

Originally Posted by Robert Rambler

Dave, Here's what I've been useing in my 16ga DH.
Cheddite Hull
Win 209
DR16 wad
16.3 gr Clays International
7/8 oz #8 lead
1175 fps 6700 psi

Nice load thats murder on clay targets.

I ordered some Cheddite hulls from Precision Reloading. They come primed with Cheddite primers. Does anyone know how significant the difference is between the Cheddite and Win 209? I am wondering if I can use this same load for the first round, then I will be using Winchester primers after that.

[John Clement]

Originally Posted by John Clement

I ordered some Cheddite hulls from Precision Reloading. They come primed with Cheddite primers. Does anyone know how significant the difference is between the Cheddite and Win 209? I am wondering if I can use this same load for the first round, then I will be using Winchester primers after that.

I just realized that I already asked that a few days ago. Maybe no one knows. I will see what I can find.

[John Clement]

Originally Posted by John Clement

I just realized that I already asked that a few days ago. Maybe no one knows. I will see what I can find.

And to finish this one sided conversation, information on the low pressure group site says that win 209 and Cheddite 209 can be substituted for one another.

[Autumn Daze]

John, That is true. Pressures realized with both the Cheddite and Winchester primers are very similar.

[Dave Miles]

Originally Posted by Robert Rambler

Dave, Here's what I've been useing in my 16ga DH.
Cheddite Hull
Win 209
DR16 wad
16.3 gr Clays International
7/8 oz #8 lead
1175 fps 6700 psi

Nice load thats murder on clay targets.

Is this Cheddite hulls 2-3/4" or 2-1/2"
Graff's is no longer carrying the SG-16 wad.
I have about 10,000 on hand, but will have to find something different some day.
Thanks, Dave

[10ga Hammer]

John C, I have done exactly that, loaded the new preprimed hull,then after first firing reloaded with Win 209's. Like Dave said performance between Win and Cheddite primers is very close.

[10ga Hammer]

Dave M, The data I have is for 2 3/4. I see data for 2 1/2 in. hulls using 3/4oz shot.
The DR is a tall wad. Depending on the bulkiness of the powder, 2 1/2 in. might work with a roll crimp?