Parker Brother Value

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, looks like a $4000 gun to me, but a closeup examination might change that.

[John Allen]

Another point that makes me think the colors are original is that Steve said he knows where the gun has been for the last 55 years.55 years ago and before,there was no one that could duplicate early Parker colors.DeGrego and Remington were doing case colors, but with a different process that gave a completely different color effect.There are people now who can come close to duplicating Parker colors,but not 55 years ago or earlier.

[steve mcilroy]

One more thing I should've added the gun hasn't been fired for about 58 years maybe longer , don't know if that's good or bad ,

[John Allen]

It needs some exercise.

[B. Dudley]

Remington / Delgrego was case coloring at that time, no AND in there. One in the same.

And that is right John, given the known history and the lack of people to accurately replicate colors at the time, the only conclusion is that they are completely original.

Your observation about the hinge pin on re-colored guns is likely a result of the hinge pin not being removed and polished during prep.

[winplumber]

So would we say the Butt plate has been off since the screws arnt timed if so why Or wasn't that a big deal on lower grade ? Just asking for my education . A gun in that condition why remove the DHBP ? Also no color on the forend iron or release and tip has me wondering

[John Allen]

Brian,Would you agree that reworking the hinge pin was a step that many early restorers missed?Even after a pin has been polished and recolored they just don't have that "right" look.

[Gerald McPherson]

I would have to look under that butt plate to see what is there. I found a 1918 SC hunting lieson under a 1917 butt plate.

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Steve Huffman

So would we say the Butt plate has been off since the screws arnt timed if so why Or wasn't that a big deal on lower grade ? Just asking for my education . A gun in that condition why remove the DHBP ? Also no color on the forend iron or release and tip has me wondering

A buttplate can be removed for many reasons. How many of us find hunting licenses or peoples addresses under a buttplate. Likely the plate was removed for one reason or another and the screws were just flip flopped between the two holes. And yes, even on the lowest grades, the screws would be timed and finished flush to the plate.
The only observation i had was that the buttstock COULD have had some finish added to it at one time or something. The darker spots in the wood look odd to me.
The color on the forend latch is one of the first things to go on a gun that has had any real use. And, the color on the bottom of the frame does have some wear as well.

[steve mcilroy]

Thanks for the info everybody . I just remove the bottom plate never thought I would do that but there's a name It's hard to make out but it looks like Lou . I snapped a photo of it later on I'll try to add it . Thanks again