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Unread 04-01-2016, 11:43 AM   #21
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Edgar, I have a little 0-frame 16 Damascus Grade 2 made in 1893 that went back to Meriden in 1913 to retro-fit ejectors for $25. I have always referred to it as my GHe.






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That makes sense but would you call it a GHE if it had aftermarket ejectors?

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Take a piece of printer paper and cut it to fit over the roll joint. Use grease to keep it in place. See if the gun is now on face. Normal printer paper is about .003.
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Unread 04-01-2016, 12:28 PM   #22
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Lower case "e" edgar.



Aftermarket - why not? It is an ejector gun, right?





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This is a great forum. I didn't expect such interest in my gun and thank you all for your experienced comments.

I took the trigger guard off and no serial number on the wood but a stamped serial number on the underside of the trigger guard.

I took pics of the escutcheon and spurred butt pad. Two questions: Can it be determined if the escutcheon is original? and Can a spurred butt pad be replaced with a new one?

I am impressed by whoever fitted the butt stock and forearm as the fit is exceptionally well done. Much better than some of my fine English doubles. I would also like to point out the wood of the butt stock and forearm match in character and figure. Now if the butt stock checkering is incorrect is the forearm checkering correct and if so more the puzzle?


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The stock oval is original.
The spurred pad can be replaced with a new one.
The forend checkering is correct.

Who knows what is going on with your buttstock. The guard looks correct for a factory guard. And the stamping on the underside is correct. The wood should also have the serial number and the grade number stamped in it.

The pad could even possibly be original to the gun.
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Here's an aftermarket ejector system on a PH 2 frame twist barreled gun. It needs help but ejectors are very strong. Receiver pics later
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Any idea who did this work???
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I am late to this thread but just read it from start to present.
First, I love the patina on this gun. It is that classic D grade wood that has been carried and loved for a century. Nice gun.
Second, an aftermarket ejector article would be a great idea and would require very good pictures to show the subtle differences. Good idea Chuck.
Third, I own a VH "E" 28 gauge 95428 that ejects shells perfectly all the time. I don't know what to call it. I like the VHe. The Shippee 28 gauge is a DHE* since it went back to the factory to have ejectors added before it was sold at retail by A&F.
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I let this drop and shouldn't have since there are few more interesting questions to quandar. If the gun came out of the factory with a pistol grip it would have a short trigger tang. The long tang on the straight grip appears to be an original. Would that have been mfg if the gun was sent back to repair at the factory and the pistol grip removed to a straight stock? As I mentioned previously the butt stock wood matches the forearm so I don't think it is a replacement or was replaced with a very close grade to the fore arm. And if factory 'repaired' then why isn't the butt stock checkering correct? Two main points factory original long trigger tang but incorrect checkering on the butt stock and no serial number on the wood. Slightly off topic but you should see my Manufrance Ideal. The left side of the gun seems to have been made at a different time than the right side as the serial numbers match on right side but not on left and vice versa. That includes barrels, strikers, ejectors and so on.
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Good questions.
The guard is completely correct. And i woild expect that the factory woild have converted stocks to straight grip if need be. But i would think that they would pit the numbers in the wood after doing the work. Some things just cannot be explained completely.

As for the checkering, i think that the butt was just worn or refinished at one time and simply incorrectly checkered by someone at that time or sometime later.
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Do the stock cheeks have the typical D Grade drop points? Could it have been ordered with G Grade features with D Grade wood?
Have you ordered a research letter for that gun?






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