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Old 06-18-2014, 10:55 PM   #21
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Dave, you may want to check with Kirk Merrington to see if he has and Acme or Peerless.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:59 PM   #22
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dean did you re read the storey..i came up the same that the test on what barrels were tested were of the same steel..somebody else tell me if i am reading this wrong.. charlie
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:20 AM   #23
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Charlie, I had the same take that Mark Conrad had, e.g., that there were differences, however slight, in the measured elements in the test samples.

Re: the Repro barrel steel... these are made of modern chromium/molybdenum steel.
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It has often been stated that Parker Reproductions were better than Parker Bros. guns because they used modern steels. Wouldn't it be enlightening to know if Parker Repro steel was truly better and have them analyzed, too?
Remington was using chrome moly barrels on those Parkers made in Illion,but it isn't as though the repro makers had a choice as all barrel tube makers use chrome moly today. Better? Not sure that
s the word I'd use. Reliability issues for the numbers made don't support it, and they certainly have their wood issues. Until I bought my GHE 28, I was considering a repro 28, so now, I don;t think swapping any of my Parkers for any gauge/grade repro would happen.
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Remington was using chrome moly barrels on those Parkers made in Illion,but it isn't as though the repro makers had a choice as all barrel tube makers use chrome moly today. Better? Not sure that
s the word I'd use. Reliability issues for the numbers made don't support it, and they certainly have their wood issues. Until I bought my GHE 28, I was considering a repro 28, so now, I don;t think swapping any of my Parkers for any gauge/grade repro would happen.
Ooops, it looks like I touched on a touchy subject. Forget about the suggestion of testing Repro barrels as the findings might not yield the preferred results for some.
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:58 PM   #26
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I felt the same way about Repros until I bought one. It is a great gun. They are not original Parkers, but good in their own right.

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As I previously said, Had I not found an original GHE 28 gauge, I would have seriously looked for and, in all likelihood, purchased a reproduction of a Parker 28 gauge. There are no real unfilled voids in my collection, of guns I have an intended use, such as upland hunting, trap, skeet or sporting clays. When I see a Parker that particularly strikes my fancy, and I can afford it, I step up, or shed something else, to make it happen. I have to honestly say that while I agree reproductions are well made, I have yet to see one that lights me up the way a well cared for, mid to high condition original gun does.
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Edgar's talking about an intangible persona - a karma - a 'life' from beyond our ken.

Someday our Repros will have it too... but first they must earn it.




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I really enjoyed Dave's article with the barrel steel analyses. Just for info, here's another company's approach to barrel steel. I assume the reference to "bursting force" for 1913 readers, would translate to "yield strength" for MechE's.

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Edgar's talking about an intangible persona - a karma - a 'life' from beyond our ken..
Yeah, something like that. I guess. Oh, OK, I have no idea what you said, but I know you do, so it must be so.
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