SBT questions; help!

[Bill Murphy]

I'm kind of fond of my SC Parker with about 6 or 7 inches of Cutts Compensator on the end.

[William Davis]

Dave

Understand Parker did furnish pads as ordered but this one has been cut down with a modern pad added. Might not make a difference to many people but my eye cut and altered stocks are not desirable. If somebody wanted a Trap Gun to shoot Stock alterations would likely be overlooked, hard to find unaltered Trap guns.

No more than I shoot trap My 30 inch VH or GH do just fine. If the SBT belonging to my buddy was just right would not quibble over the price, it's just not.

Bill

[Researcher]

This 1939 ad shows the single with a Jostam Hy-Gun pad, but I'm sure whatever the customer ordered would be provided.

[Bill Murphy]

Seems like the double trap in the ad has a NoShoc or Silvers style pad. My SB came with a scarce and unusual pad, the name of which I can't recall, but it was an offering in the catalogs. My 1917 SC had a very depleted original Silver. The problem with the 27" gun being discussed is that Mr. Murphy has not given us a length of pull measurement, even though the gun has been on the internet auction site for years.

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

Phil, Parker Bros. advertised 30" barrels as the shortest available. I have never heard of a 28" SBT gun but that is not to say they didn't make one. This gun has clearly been cut. If it were me I would just keep looking for a nice original gun. There are several out there most of the time. The chokes in a Parker SBT are simply amazing.

The Parker Story states that 20 Single Barrel traps were made in 28" Length and 2 in 26" length. Only 5 guns were ordered in 20g. So, of the 22 guns made in lengths less than 30", that means that 17 of them were 12g.

[Phil Yearout]

LOP measured 14". As pictured, the gun has a recoil pad and a 1/4" plexiglass spacer. Mr. Murphy, you certainly seem to have a burr under your saddle over this particular gun and/or dealer !

[Autumn Daze]

Brian, Thank you but I know what is stated in the Parker Story. I was referring to Parker Bros. advertising specifically the 1937 catalog.

[bill grill]

Can't say that I've ever seen a Ithaca, L.C. Smith, Parker, Or Fox sbt for sale for a $1000. in the last 10 years. At least one that was worth buying. Did buy a Lefever for less than half that though. Bill

[Bill Murphy]

Mr. Yearout, reread all of my posts about this gun and tell me where you have gained the right to accuse me of having a "burr under my saddle" concerning Mr. Murphy. I have told you everything about this gun that I know and I have told you about the questions I have asked about this gun and not received answers. Every comment I have made has been in the interest of helping you to make an intellegent decision about buying or not buying this gun. I wish you would reconsider your absolutely uncalledfor comment. I have known Mr. Murphy for years and respect him as a dealer in fine double guns. I have no such thing as a "burr in my saddle" concerning him or his reputation. I merely commented about my contact with him on this particular gun. It seems that you have received the same lack of information as I have. Please tell me where I have made a comment that would not help you to make a bad decision.

[Phil Yearout]

Mr. Murphy, I absolutely apologize; I did not intend to offend. The little smiley face following my comment was my attempt to show I was in humerous agreement with you; obviously I failed. The reason for my comment was that I sensed your frustration in getting answers to your questions. Mike Murphy's place is less than 15 minutes from my front door so it's easy for me to see any of his offerings face to face; therefore simple things like LOP, etc, are easy for me to find out for myself. I do not have the knowledge nor the experience that many here have, certainly including yourself. You posed a solution to determining the amount of choke which is beyond my capabilities; if I had the tools and the knowledge to supply those measurements to you I would do so, and gladly.

I did not talk to Mike personally about the gun, and it seemed that the man I did talk with was as puzzled as I about the fact that the barrels seemed cut, and yet there is, in their opinion at least, more choke than one would think possible if they had been.

I appreciate all the input I received, including yours. If you still feel that my comment is inappropriate here I will be happy to edit it out or take down my posts; I meant no harm. Please let me know; thank you.