Highly Endorsed

[Hammer Gun]

Gents, From 1994 till he left for whatever reason Mr Ron Kirby was the man, He put all the stories together, people would send him info and photos to use. He and his wife would work at night after teaching school to put these early issues together, using grey paper they would staple the pages together and mail the copies to the membership, Six times a year! No they were not as fancy as todays Parker Pages but had a wealth of information on the Parker gun, that as is today the membership could not wait to get. All this with no cost to the PGCA but paper etc, Today I believe it cost about 28,000 to do the Parker Pages, My hat is off to Mr Kirby and his wife for the work done early on. It was truly a labor of love. Pardon me for digging up bones, Gary

[Dean Romig]

You're absolutely right Gary - no bones about it - Hats off to Ron Kirby!

[Bill Murphy]

Mills, the Double Gun Journal has two hard cover indexes, each covering seven years. You can reference article titles, authors, subjects, and individual word mention in an alphabetical sequence or articles by issue in issue sequence. If you want to find A.W. Dubray, Dave Noreen articles, a certain article by title, any subject or name, you name it. It's all there in a simple format. If you purchase one or both of the DGJ indexes, you will see exactly the project I volunteered to take on for the Parker Pages. All those who own the first fourteen years of DGJ should have these volumes. It isn't an easy project if you let too many years go by, as Dan Cote has found out. It has been ten years since the last index was published and no one knows whether the third index is in the hopper or not.

[Mills]

Those two indexes are on my wishlist, as soon as some other things are moved out of the way.

[Bindlestiff]

Bill, the Parker Pages project that was killed was along those lines. It was to be a DVD containing all the Parker Pages in PDF format, as printed, with an index containing title and author to each issue, organized by year and volume. Everything was searchable by keyword, much like google searches, except it wasn't presented in any particular order. It would allow a search of all Parker Pages to find a given keyword. Once a Parker Pages issue was selected to read, it too was searchable because they were saved in searchable PDF format and Adobe reader provides the search function.

It was almost done when the off hand copyright challenge was made. This scared me about legal action and me being destroyed financially if it went public. I have continued to keep the work going for my own personal use. It is frustrating that it can't be shown to others. It could have been a good financial win for the PGCA. But, without a release from everyone that submitted an article or photo for publication I'm not releasing my work to anyone; that isn't likely to happen.

The Parker Pages index found on the Parker Pages link on this site is the index I intended to use on the DVD. That is why when you click on the image of the issue it fails to work; something you complained about. It would have made that issue available to read, if we could allow that. Clicking on "Table of Contents" does work and will provide the index for that particular year. When it comes up, you could click on the issue number on the far right and the issue would come up for you to read; again if we could make it available, which we can't.

Anyway, now you know.

[Bruce Day]

Originally Posted by Robin Lewis

.......It was almost done when the off hand copyright challenge was made......

And that's all it was, off hand, made in the evening after........ because his game was to get people wound up. He later said he was "just joking", and now he has passed away.

If people seriously want to re-visit the issue , it can be done, assuming that there is a serious need for the project and a serious intent to proceed.

[Bindlestiff]

When I talked to Austin about copyright, he told me that Ed wasn't the only one to send items with copyright attached. Unfortunately, he didn't keep records of who sent them. Joking or not, without clear copyright, my life as I know it could change dramatically at his or another contributor's whim.

[Bill Murphy]

I edited this post because it didn't make sense after I learned how to operate the "Index" on the home page.

[Bindlestiff]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Bill, once I have finished my research project a complete listing can be printed but only of the PP Volume, the Title, the Author, the Issue - available by USPS initially as it is thirty-three pages long.

Bill, Dean said one is in the works? I never said copyright stopped an index, in fact one already exists on the Parker Pages web page. I don't understand what you are looking for, but as you are a PGCA member, I am sure your efforts producing what you envision would be welcomed by us all. You have all the Parker Pages available, make it yourself and give it to the PGCA.

[Mills]

What would be cool is an index and a collection of some of the "best of" articles from Parker Pages. I bet we could get permission from enough authors to do quite a good book. I am willing to volunteer to help and it sounds like there are a few others on this thread who would volunteer as well.