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Unread 09-06-2013, 09:03 AM   #21
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Tom..... it was the gun sold on G.B. I have been looking for a Philly 16ga. SW with ejectors since you posted this thread. I want to have a Fox gun done for me. I have looked and looked at all the fine guns originals and up-grades but never could find the perfect one, always some issue about the gun. Its time do one just for me. I got a good buy for a clean gun with minty barrels choked F/F for this project. It will be here next week to inspect. My dog Ruby will grace the belly of this one too. Ruby is my first setter dog and first bird dog I ever owned, she is part of our family. She is a solid grouse dog that only needs more bird contact. This gun will have birds and landscapes. Color case metals, twin ivories and skelitin but plate. What you think about a parker hinge pin? That would look kool....(-: SEE RUBY
Parker Hinge pin is certainly doable. Dewey Vicknair did a custom Fox a few years ago (12 gauge) where he made side plates and did a Parker style hinge pin. Pretty amazing gun. The first Sterlingworths (12 gauge only) all incorporated a Parker style hinge pin because they used leftover frames from Philadelphia Arms. Whomever you get to shape the metal will no doubt have ideas on what can be done. I utilized Dan Rossiter at Custom Stocks and Steel. If you take a look at his website you can see lots of custom Foxes with varying degree's of metal shaping. Believe Doug Mann has also done more then a few as well. The only word of caution is expect it to take a while. The Abby gun was 3+ year project. Many long poles in the tent, but I'd say the longer one include having an idea of what engraver you want to use and see if you can get in his que right away. Most of the good ones are backed up for 18 months or more. Heck, I believe both Dan and Doug are backed up that long as well for the stockmaking/metal shaping process.

PS. I think you can expect your gun to come in right about 6 lbs. It will lose some weight in the metal shaping process, but may gain some weight during the stock making process (unless you are going to a straight stock) because you will probably have some figured walnut (which weighs more) and may have to have a longer length of pull then what was the norm back when that gun was made. Think the Abby gun started out a 7 lb 5 oz and ended up at 6 lb 14 oz.

Custom gun projects are fun. Nice to design something from start to finish and have control of the entire project. I decided on the metal shaping, picked out my own walnut and stock style and checkering pattern and then took months and months just trying to decide exactly how I wanted it engraved. Nice tribute to a great dog and even when she's gone I'll still always her a piece of her with me every time I take the gun into the field.

Double PS. One additional small piece of advice, and that's go high end on the walnut. Some folks don't care much about engraving, but everyone cares about high grade walnut. You can spot it clear across a room and it gives a gun life and pizazz. IMO the Abby gun would have looked nice with the case colors and zero engraving because everything else flows nicely and I found a really nice piece of English with consistent figuring on both sides. Quartersawn wood IMO is more consistent from side to side then slabsawn, and that's why I selected the blank I did for the Abbygun.
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Thanks Tom....I will talk with you about the project soon...thanks for your help. Kenny
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Gunner's gun will make opening day again this year. He's been gone a year next week and in some ways it's been like just yesterday and others it's been a long time. I look forward to many fine days afield with him in my heart and his Parker in my hands.

I knew what I wanted in the gun befor haveing it started and this helped in the time frame. It was a year from start to finish.
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ruby s got a lot of class..she ll like having a gun made just for her.. charlie
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The Fox is in hand...chokes are perfect for Kansas roosters at .013/.033 6lbs-4oz Gun is really nice, shame to up-grade one in this condition. This is a Utica Savage with Philly features. I will need to plan the details and save some mad money for this project. I would also like a 2nd set of barrels fitted with open chokes to use for grouse hunting. I will be on the look for set of barrels or complete gun with ejectors...SXS ohio. Grouse season is close now...(-: Ruby is chomping at her leash!!!
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The Fox is in hand...chokes are perfect for Kansas roosters at .013/.033 6lbs-4oz Gun is really nice, shame to up-grade one in this condition. This is a Utica Savage with Philly features. I will need to plan the details and save some mad money for this project. I would also like a 2nd set of barrels fitted with open chokes to use for grouse hunting. I will be on the look for set of barrels or complete gun with ejectors...SXS ohio. Grouse season is close now...(-: Ruby is chomping at her leash!!!
That is perfect for roosters for sure. Actually its not too far off what many folks hunt grouse with when they are running flushing dogs. Finding a set of ejector 16 gauge barrels won't be easy, but they are out there I'm sure.
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The Mattie gun has been in the works for a couple months now, and is progressing very well, No need to hurry, Everything will come together, and I will have when done a fitting tribute to a great dog and faithful companion. Gary
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Kenny, if you're thinking of getting the receiver profiled and sculpted, the recessed hinge pin would be a great idea. I'm not doing that, but my project Fox pigeon gun is about busy enough without a Parker hinge pin.
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