$250 12 ga

[Drew Hause]

c. 1874 $250 Grade SN 3328 with 3 Iron 'Oxford'



c. 1874 11g $250 Grade SN 3561 courtesy of Richard Hoover with 4 Iron 'Turkish'





Could someone please post ultra close up pics of the barrels of another lifter thought to have 6 Iron Crolle?

Tom Carter's 1881 10g Special Order Lifter with 6 Iron 'Turkish'

[todd allen]

Not a great picture, but here is an enlargement of one of my previous bbl shots:

[Drew Hause]

Thank you Todd. The smaller scrolls in the middle of the pic are at the ribband weld line where the edges were 'jumped' (overlapped) then helically welded. It's either 3- or 4- Iron 'Oxford', but I need to see 2 ribband weld lines in order to count the 'scrolls' in between.

[Drew Hause]

Lest anyone think that I'm making this stuff up ;from a more credible source
Dr Gaddy: "It's very difficult to count the layers of metal if you cannot distinguish the welds between the individual ropes and the welds at the edge of the ribband. Each rope (or iron) produces the left side of one whorl (or scroll) and the right side of another. You cannot count the number of ropes in the ribband, if you cannot see and identify with certainty the boundry of the ribband (ribband weld lines), which is by definition the number of irons in the pattern."

[Drew Hause]

The $250 grade posted by Robin Lewis has the same 3 Iron 'Oxford'

[Drew Hause]

"Could someone please post ultra close up pics of the barrels of another lifter thought to have 6 Iron Crolle?"

Thought I'd let this sit for a bit. In the absence of (or unwillingness to share) evidence to the contrary (excepting Tom's very late and special order gun) I'll remain under the confusion that no lifter has 6 Iron barrels.