Orvis Sandanona Game Fair

[B. Dudley]

Harry, contact the Vintage Cup people, get on their board and make your vision come to reality.

[Harry Gietler]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Harry, contact the Vintage Cup people, get on their board and make your vision come to reality.

Brian, I am in contact with them, thru this ''Site''. What I am saying a lot of Parker guys wish would ''Happen''. The vocal ones sound off on here because
they live on the East side and don't want to drive 250 to 500 miles. They like things in their back yard. Rest assured the Vintage guys are reading this, but that doesn't mean they will change. Keep doing the same old ,same old, and expect different results. It doesn't happen.

Harry

[Cold Spring]

So I talked with August at Steve Barnett's last week who told me he had an excellent show at the Orvis Game Fair event, and part of that was the liaison lady who had frequent contacts with August and with Bill at Robin Hollow asking how things were going and what Orvis could do improve for that show and next year's event. Apparently Orvis is actively looking to return to the days when it was THE place to see fine guns in the early Fall. He also mentioned that the Vintagers timing at Hopkins was just too close to the Orvis Game Fair to justify a second road trip from/back to MS. Lastly I learned that SBFG will be moving to a new location in (as I recall) Cleveland MS that's about 2 hours away from its current location in West Point. Move to be complete right after the first of the year.

[Ed Blake]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

Brian, I am in contact with them, thru this ''Site''. What I am saying a lot of Parker guys wish would ''Happen''. The vocal ones sound off on here because
they live on the East side and don't want to drive 250 to 500 miles. They like things in their back yard. Rest assured the Vintage guys are reading this, but that doesn't mean they will change. Keep doing the same old ,same old, and expect different results. It doesn't happen.

Harry

Most of the guys heavily involved with leadership of the Vintagers are not on this site. If they hear about your complaints, it’s strictly hearsay and you know what that’s worth. The Vintagers have their issues, mainly the aging of members. The demographic issues have been beat to death on this and other boards. Organizations run by volunteers can be problematic for various reasons. When Ray Poudrier (sp?) ran the Vintagers it was his baby and he made money doing it. He was the central point of contact and things got done. That is no longer the case; the profit motive is not there. Maybe that’s what is needed. A change in location might help in the short term but long term prospects for the Vintagers are questionable. Your complaints are a rehash of the obvious so if you want positive change put your shoulder to the wheel rather throwing rocks from the sideline.