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The barrels pictured have a 3 grade stamp, red arrow --
134xxx 03.jpg and they have the "Parker Bros. Overload Proved" stamp that wasn't used until the late 1920s. |
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12-01-2019, 08:08 PM | #25 | ||||||
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If the barrels and forearm are serial numbered to the gun, it appears to me that Parker Bros. fitted a new set of barrels and a forearm to that gun in the late 1920s or early 1930s.
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12-02-2019, 10:36 AM | #27 | ||||||
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So here are all the numbers. Forend latch and tip. Forend iron and barrel flats and action . Numbers appear correct in font . Opinions please.
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12-02-2019, 10:52 AM | #28 | ||||||
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The stamping on the barrels is later in style. In line with the stamps used in the 1920s.
the frond matches the frame exactly, so the iron at least is original to time of whole manufacture. The barrels were likely replacements for the originals. The forend tip may just remain a mystery as to an explanation or which it may have been replaced later on too. Maybe forend iron was reused and wood and other metal parts were replaced with the barrels?
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12-02-2019, 11:11 AM | #29 | |||||||
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I believe the fore end, wood, iron, tip and latch are entirely original to the gun, and agree that the barrels are a later replacement. Despite my assertion previously that the tip and latch did not appear correct for a grade 5, as the coverage doesn't appear as much as the ones I showed, the numbers on the reverse indicate their originality. As to why the flat is marked '3', rather than '5', is a mystery, but Titanic barrels were the norm in 1905. TPS states the ACME barrels first showed up in 1905, but that Titanic continued to be supplied for some years afterward. |
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12-02-2019, 11:21 AM | #30 | ||||||
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Edgar... I was not referring to the checkering pattern and unfortunately left out the word "latch" in my post. I know that pattern was the standard used from Grade 3 up to Grade 6 with "check all over" being an option - the only difference being the LPI was finer in Grade 5 and 6 guns. Grade 3 and 4 often (but not always) shared the same LPI in the checkering.
The forend tip Edgar shows from a BHE has extra sculpting only found on Grade 5 and higher guns and the subject gun does not have that extra sculpting, aside from the engraving being somewhat plainer than we would expect to see on a Grade 5. Not intending to denigrate the gun at all.... just discussing it's peculiarities. .
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