grade 5 trojan?

[Pa SxS]

Mearl,

I live in Harrisburg and I'd be more than happy to look at your Parker.

Send me a PM or e-mail at bishop474(insert @ sign)comcast.net. and we'll make contact.

I'll give it my best shot!

Chuck Bishop

[B. Dudley]

Most likely the gun is either an ungrade or the barrels have been replaced with a set of Trojan barrels. I will also request pics to be posted.

[GH-16]

Didn't Frank Pachmayr do several big time upgrades using a Trojan as the base platform?

If I remember correctly he did several of these for different raffle/auction guns for fund raisers for different oganizations. Correct me if I'm wrong, but some of these he even re-profiled the Trojan action to look like a graded Parker.

Could this be one of the Pachmayr up-graded Trojans??

Just think'in

[Harry Collins]

I would like to see pictures of your Parker. I have a number of higher grade Parkers that had Damascus barrels that were sent to Parker Bros and returned with Vulcan barrels. Could your Parker have been fitted with Trojan barrels? Sure....

[Dean Romig]

It would not have been cost-effective to have fit the gun with Trojan Barrels when the rounded rib extension would not have fit the recess in a BH frame for a doll's head extension, thereby necessitating the replacement of the extension piece as well. A replacement set of Vulcan Steel barrels would have made a whole lot more sense.

[Pa SxS]

The Serialization book lists it as a Trojan and Mearl indicates that the research letter also lists it as a Trojan. The question then is whether or not the frame was reshaped to resemble a B grade frame and engraved in a B style or just left as a Trojan style frame. I just doubt that someone would return a Trojan back to the factory for added engraving and fancier wood. I guess if the engraving looks like factory work, it could have been done by Runge.

Hopefully Mearl will contact me soon and we'll have a better idea what it is.

[B. Dudley]

There are a couple of higher grade parkers on GB right now that fitted with Trojan barrels.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

I just doubt that someone would return a Trojan back to the factory for added engraving and fancier wood.

More to the point, I seriously doubt the factory would have even accepted an order to upgrade a Trojan in order to make it "look like a B grade". I question the logic, or thought process behind trying to make a Trojan frame into a graded frame when there are so many V grade guns available, where it already has the physical dimensions of everything on up to whatever you want to make it into.

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

There are a couple of higher grade parkers on GB right now that fitted with Trojan barrels.

But i wonder if the fitting was done by Parker/Remington - and or by another souce.

For Parker -with vulcan barrel available it doesn't make sense

For another gunsmith who only has the trojan tubes at hand, it certainly could be done.

[Bruce Day]

In the Dick Washburn example shown above, he related that he did it to demonstrate his abilities. That gun still has the non dolls head rib extension which is received into a slot in the action frame. Its not unusual that engravers take on a Trojan to showcase their talents, but certainly trying to do the frame sculpting, bolster ribs, and complex engraving is a difficult task made more difficult unless a V grade is used.

But I suppose we could say that the Washburn gun is an A-1 Special Trojan and the Mace gun is a B grade Trojan ! Now where do I find that in the Parker Serialization and Identification Book.......

Mearl, Chuck Bishop knows his Parkers and taking him up on his offer could be enlightening.