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Parker Reproductions Northeast Sales Manager, Ray Stone, visited here on August 31, 1988, to display and promote the Repro and the new .410 BHE. He brought a beautiful little prototype with him for examination and display. My friend, Mel Swerdloff, and I placed orders for identical .410 BHEs, his field choked, mine skeet choked. We had hours to inspect the new gun, but it only took me about five minutes to decide I needed one. Ray didn't know the price of the new gun and I didn't care. I still have a copy of the order.
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Chaddic had one of the two know true 0000 frame guns. I did see pictures of it but not good ones, it only was 410 and 5lbs. About the other 33 guns you speak of, they are on 00 frames... end of story unless you can show pictures of the frame with no balls....I saw this or that but no pictures have ever shown up. Look back in the old threads, lots of speculation but never any real proof. Think about the 410 barrels, they are made to mate to 28ga. 00 frames. If the frame was little the barrels would hang out past the breach balls. It just can't work. oooo frame stand alone 410 never got past the one or two prototypes. Im real sure there is not 33 of them. Thanks all, SXS ohio
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The BHE in four gauges were introduced by a memo to dealers in 1988 at a retail of $3900 plus. One hundred of each gauge were to be produced. By 1989, they were missing from Repro literature. The Gun List advertisement placed by Mike Weatherby, offering a BHE .410, was dated April 9, 1993, long after production ended. The assumption is that Paul Dorsa's gun, seen at Las Vegas, was purchased from that ad, or maybe another Weatherby offering earlier. The Weatherby asking price was $16,000.
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Kenny, you are being very impolite to tell me that I have not seen what I have seen. I've been in this longer than you have and have seen the guns. I know about the Chaddick gun, and it is not, as you say, one of two known genuine 0000 frame .410s. Maybe you should post those pictures. Geoffroy and I measured the pin separation on 0000 frame guns to confirm that they are different from the 00 frame. They are. The barrels of a 0000 do not "hang out the sides", because they are smaller than the 0000 marked 00 frame barrels. Without consulting my notes, I seem to recall that the genuine 0000 frame has an identical pin separation with the original Parker Brothers 000 frame. Please do not persist on implying I am not telling the truth.
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The 33 DHE .410s in the production chart are assumed to be, as you suggest, 00 frame dedicated .410 guns, not part of sets, very hard to find, because some probably got converted into sets. The 0000 frame BHEs, which the production chart lists as 9 built, are a completely different animal. However, the 9 BHEs are not the complete production of 0000 frame guns, as I stated in my earlier post.
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01-21-2014, 02:03 PM | #28 | ||||||
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Bill, how do you know which frame size the 9 .410 BHEs listed in the production chart were built on?
I have to think that the 33 DHE .410s listed in the production chart were extrapolated from the Sisley article---although the Sisley article did not mention what grade they were finished out in. Where did I say "the BHE grade 0000 frame .410 was unusual among 0000 frame .410s." Or did you take what I said out of context? Unusual, to me, is something that is not usual. I have been at the Repro game since the mid 80s and I hoisted a grand total of just one 0000-frame gun. That, in my world, qualifies as something that is unusual or not usually seen.
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On page one of this thread, in your paragraph you numbered "1.", is where I see that you stated that there "were few 0000 guns and even fewer B Grades". In fact, most were B grades. I can see where you meant that if there were one 0000 gun that was not a B Grade, your statement makes sense. I apologize for my misunderstanding your point.
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01-21-2014, 05:55 PM | #30 | ||||||
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Oh come on lets beat it some more....I'm glad I got a Fox FE 410
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