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Unread 07-16-2019, 11:05 PM   #21
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A number of companies have made complete barrel sets for Parkers over the years. Belgian, Spanish, English and others. Barrels sets that were custom made to fit guns sent to them for extra or replacement barrels. Mostly in the days of damascus barrels being deadly to even think about shooting.

Most of these barrel sets are of very good overall quality.
Oh see I was thinking people were cannibalizing barrels from other shotguns and having them mated to a Parkers . Sounds like that would be pretty difficult .

I once got to talk with one of the guys over at Westley Richards and they said It didnt really matter how old of a sxs of theirs was that if it needed to be they would build a new set of barrels for it . Probably not a good financial proposition perhaps putting a 10,000$ set of barrels on a gun you paid less than that for the whole gun. However I thought that was pretty unique a company would do that for a sxs they made 120 or so years ago .
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Milton, Unless I don’t understand, you can’t see the Parker’s for sale since you are a forum member and not a member of the PGCA. By the way, there could be members who want to offer you a nice gun, but don’t want to break the forum rules.
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What Brian said. Atlas Arms in Chicago (and others) offered replacement barrels for Smith and Parker guns using tubes made by Vickers (England) and fit and finished by Armaf in Belgium. These barrels have a 1954 proof date code. Courtesy of Jim Akins.



and semi-finished barrels



A 10g Smith rebarreled to 3 1/2" in 1954

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What Brian said. Atlas Arms in Chicago (and others) offered replacement barrels for Smith and Parker guns using tubes made by Vickers (England) and fit and finished by Armaf in Belgium. These barrels have a 1954 proof date code. Courtesy of Jim Akins.



and semi-finished barrels



A 10g Smith rebarreled to 3 1/2" in 1954

I have never heard of this before , thanks for teaching me something new .
Seems like putting a set of 10 ga 3.5" barrels on a gun that originally had 2 7/8" chambers would be pretty rough on the wood and joints . Interesting nonetheless !
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Seems like putting a set of 10 ga 3.5" barrels on a gun that originally had 2 7/8" chambers would be pretty rough on the wood and joints . Interesting nonetheless !

Keep in mind that Parker Brothers would never have built a gun that would compromise the health and safety of a user of their product or the product itself, nor would they produce anything that would compromise their reputation.





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I see its still up for sale , Any thoughts on the quality of those barrels ?
Im wondering if it would make a good field gun that would provide years of service . I emailed pugs but never heard back from them perhaps they dont answer gmail emails .
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I would say that it would make a good field gun. It appeared to be very good barrels,just not Parker. Pugs are better if you call them.
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I would say that it would make a good field gun. It appeared to be very good barrels,just not Parker. Pugs are better if you call them.
I talked to the dad who owned Pugs a few years ago and he seemed like he was willing to work out a deal on whichever gun I was looking at . I heard that he has since passed away and his son is now running things . They have a particular Parkers that I remember seeing back in 2011 still up for sale . Thought about seeing if we could work out a deal on it .
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I see its still up for sale , Any thoughts on the quality of those barrels ?
Im wondering if it would make a good field gun that would provide years of service . I emailed pugs but never heard back from them perhaps they dont answer gmail emails .
Buy it and find out.
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Buy it and find out.
Its just theres alot of nice 10 gauge options around that price range , makes it hard to narrow down which one I like the most . My #1 pick is about 2000$ more than I will probably be able to spend but its also possible I could save up the extra however its has quite a few cracks in the wrist area . One runs what looks horizontally through the wrist on the left side and a crack that runs vertically on the right side .
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