8 1/2 shot - Page 3

Southpaw · 10-07-2018, 07:45 AM

I recall years ago that a few shot shell manufacturers promoted their dual density loads by having two different shot sizes. I think it was mostly designed for waterfowl hunters. For instance it used to be about 30% of #2 combined with 70% of #4 shot. I remember shooting it and it killed ducks but did not shoot enough to say it was inferior or superior to a so called homogeneous load. Remembered the ads for it saying best of both worlds with larger shot giving more knockdown power at further ranges plus having pattern density for moderate ranges. It sounded good in theory but not certain it really performed the best. Plus the premium they were charging for each box guaranteeing superior performance than normal loads did not really jive where we were hunting at the time in beaver ponds.

We all know shotguns were not designed as precision guns and obviously a slight variation in shot size I don't think makes that much difference, or does it. We also know that deformed shot can cause flyers and shot stringing assuming pellets were deformed by the powder discharge. This maybe part of it but maybe the variation in actual shot size before also contributes to flyers and stringing just as much as deformation.

Hixie · 10-08-2018, 08:17 AM

I seem to recall the dual shot size was (or maybe still is) used as a marketing tool for turkey ammo too. Something about improved pattern density If I recall correctly. I've never used or tested it but it would not surprise me to learn that it is an improvement.

Scott Gentry · 10-08-2018, 08:48 PM

One that never made much sense to me.

Harold Pickens · 10-08-2018, 11:38 PM

As Grandma used to say, 8 1/2 shot??--'bout as useless as tits on a boar hog

Southpaw · 10-09-2018, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens

--'bout as useless as tits on a boar hog

My dads good friend and hunting buddy from West Virginia used to say that. Tough fella. He lost his right eye and then learned to shoot left handed.

He always had some great mountain wityisms. My other favorite was "talking to him was like satisfying a boar hog-once you start he wont let you stop"

Scott that is the stuff. I had forgotten they also did that. Remember the marketing info on it but can't say how it performed justified the up charge in price they were asking. I think it just a gimmick that also produced shot stringing. Since most people don't really think about it that much it was one of those good thought-bad idea products.

mobirdhunter · 10-10-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens

As Grandma used to say, 8 1/2 shot??--'bout as useless as tits on a boar hog

Harold,

My friend's "Grandma" had a similar saying about useless things, but I can't post it here. Your Grandma was obviously more genteel than his.

I dug through my stash of shot shells, knowing I'd shot 8 1/2s before. This time my feeble memory served me well. I killed many a grouse and a few woodcock with these. Were they better than 8s or 9s -- not to my unscientific leanings, but when you can't make up your mind, indecision can make you do funny things.

I have a couple of AyAs with 27 inch barrels. When I bought them I asked the dealer why 27 inches. He essentially said that AyA was trying please those who wanted 28" AND 26" barrels. Not sure that works.

Chalk all this up to the large category of "the irrelevant."

I guess it's like finding a unique Parker with some feature or configuration not seen before. As I often read in this Forum, "Never say never."

TxHuntermn · 10-10-2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

Harold,

My friend's "Grandma" had a similar saying about useless things, but I can't post it here. Your Grandma was obviously more genteel than his.

I dug through my stash of shot shells, knowing I'd shot 8 1/2s before. This time my feeble memory served me well. I killed many a grouse and a few woodcock with these. Were they better than 8s or 9s -- not to my unscientific leanings, but when you can't make up your mind, indecision can make you do funny things.

I have a couple of AyAs with 27 inch barrels. When I bought them I asked the dealer why 27 inches. He essentially said that AyA was trying please those who wanted 28" AND 26" barrels. Not sure that works.

Chalk all this up to the large category of "the irrelevant."

I guess it's like finding a unique Parker with some feature or configuration not seen before. As I often read in this Forum, "Never say never."

The “Bill Hanus Bird Gun” dimensions specify 27” bbls. And you see lots of english guns with 27” tubes

mobirdhunter · 10-10-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Ray

The “Bill Hanus Bird Gun” dimensions specify 27” bbls. And you see lots of english guns with 27” tubes

Mark,

Very true, but I’ve never heard any English makers nor Hanus come up with the same goofy logic as that guy selling those AyAs.

TxHuntermn · 10-10-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

Mark,

Very true, but I’ve never heard any English makers nor Hanus come up with the same goofy logic as that guy selling those AyAs.

True Dat!!!!

Southpaw · 10-10-2018, 05:00 PM

I only talked to Bill Hanus once years ago considering one of his guns. Neat fella that loved the small bores and had strong notions. Anything bigger than a 16 gauge for a double gun in upland hunting he was firmly against.