Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Single Barrel Trap Shotguns

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 07-12-2024, 06:55 PM   #21
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,785
Thanks: 504
Thanked 18,649 Times in 4,778 Posts

Default

A letter will not provide information on remington era repairs.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 07-12-2024, 07:32 PM   #22
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,072
Thanks: 36,781
Thanked 34,213 Times in 12,647 Posts

Default

Unfortunately the Remington IBM cards and codes ‘never’ indicate the service or repair work done and a PGCA Research Letter can’t provide that information if it’s not in the factory records.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-12-2024, 09:15 PM   #23
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,367
Thanks: 3,179
Thanked 12,345 Times in 3,300 Posts

Default

As Brian and Dean have indicated, a PGCA research letter will only reflect how it left the factory, and any subsequent work Parker performed. Since it’s quite unlikely the carving and engraving was done by Parker, that work would not be addressed.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-12-2024, 10:53 PM   #24
Member
Pa SxS
Research Chairman
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Chuck Bishop's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,918
Thanks: 1,231
Thanked 5,085 Times in 1,455 Posts

Default

Ralph, your research letter went in the mail today. Unfortunately the information contained in the letter is only based on the stock book entry, the order books ended in December 1919. Any special work asked for would have been entered in the order book.

It's a SB grade gun. The engraving on the action is original. I can't tell if the case colors are original but based on the case colors on the fore-end iron, I don't think they are. The engraving on the barrel is not of the quality that either guns manufactured in Meriden or Ilion NY. Looks very large and not like the rest of the scroll engravings. The fore-end and stock may or may not be original. The carving has a definite Germanic style. I don't see a mullard boarder on the checkering. The nose flute looks good but the best way to tell if the wood is original is to separate the metal from the fore-end wood and lift the trigger guard tang out of it's channel and rotate it 1/4 turn CCW. You should see the S/N's stamped in the wood plus a #5 stamped in the trigger guard channel. Personally I don't think the wood is original to the gun.

Unfortunately we don't know what the Remington repair codes mean, we only know the month and year the gun was returned for service.

If your pleased with the gun, that's all that counts. Go out and shoot it, that's what it was made for and before you ask, as long as the barrel is within specs, you can shoot any modern trap load.
Chuck Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Chuck Bishop For Your Post:
Unread 07-13-2024, 11:13 AM   #25
Member
Researcher
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Dave Noreen's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,717
Thanks: 1,743
Thanked 8,187 Times in 2,454 Posts

Default

Good chance the extra engraving on the barrel and the stock carving were done in Germany and there are two likely scenarios -- 1. Pachmayr sent it to West Germany to be done. 2. A U.S. service man had it done while stationed in West Germany.
Dave Noreen is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-13-2024, 11:59 AM   #26
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,072
Thanks: 36,781
Thanked 34,213 Times in 12,647 Posts

Default

Or did Pachmayr have in-house craftsmen who would do that?





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-13-2024, 01:38 PM   #27
Member
David C Porter
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 177
Thanks: 30
Thanked 221 Times in 65 Posts

Default

I doubt Pachmayr did the work; too crude. I had dealings with their engravers: Richard Boucher, Geno Cargnel, Angelo Bee, & their stockmaker Engilbert Olafsson who I learned stockmaking from. Englebert besides being an excellent stockmaker was an excellent carver.
David C Porter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to David C Porter For Your Post:
Unread 07-13-2024, 06:25 PM   #28
Member
Ralph Miller
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 48
Thanks: 1
Thanked 77 Times in 17 Posts

Default

It is a beautiful and unique Parker SB, that I bought at an estate sale, through my local gun shop, along with a few Browning Superposes. I did not think it was original at the time, but it was a good deal and I did not have a Parker SB. I am now planning on shooting it and comparing it to my Browning BT-99.

Thanks for all the information you provided, on this unique Parker SB,

Ralph
Ralph Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ralph Miller For Your Post:
Unread 07-13-2024, 06:51 PM   #29
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,964
Thanks: 6,395
Thanked 9,276 Times in 4,942 Posts

Default

Tell us about your Superposed purchases.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-14-2024, 08:28 AM   #30
Member
John Davis
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
John Davis's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,963
Thanks: 4,031
Thanked 7,027 Times in 1,333 Posts

Default

I’m betting you will love shooting this SB.
__________________
"Life is short and you're dead an awful long time." Destry L. Hoffard

"Oh Christ, just shoot the damn thing."
Destry L. Hoffard
John Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to John Davis For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.