NO LEAD, NO POWDER AVAILABLE

[Harold Pickens]

Right place, right time. Walked into Cabelas this morning as a friend who works there brought out 2 cases of .22's. Only 1 brick/customer @ $25/brick. More than I'm used to paying, but damn happy to get them--they wanted double that at a gun show in Pittsburg last week.
Rich, I have 2 1 pounders of 7625 and will pick up more whenever I find it.

[gman]

I just came from the Barre gun show. I saw exactly one jar of pyrodex - the only powder at the whole show that I came upon, and I was looking.
Did hook up with three pound of sr7625 earlier in the week so with that and some other good powders I had I finally ordered that 2 1/2" 16 gauge Grabber from MEC.

[C.O.B.]

Thanks Harold I appreciate your efforts.

Eric you will love the Mec. I have three 9000's set for 2 1/2 inch shells and will order one for the 12ga shortly.

[John Farrell, Charter Member #33]

Here's the message concerning "shortages". None of us would go online and post where we recently came across 20 coveys of grouse in one morning, or where we travel to for a fine day of dog work on pheasants. And, I've never been able to understand why everyone has to write essays on where the best turkey hunting is.

We know if we do those things every yahoo in the county that reads the good news is going to head to our favorite spots. Especially if the previous season was like finding a desert instead of a fount of game birds.

When one starts to broadcast that he has been finding a shortage of a commodity in his favorite market place, every yahoo that reads that sad news is going to run out and start buying that commodity in four or five times the amount he/she normally would. And then that person, finding no more of the commodity, posts that bad news and the avalanche of hoarding starts. Every time a post is added, more people move into the market and start hoarding all over again.

In other words, one comment begets more comments until the hoarding that we saw in 2013, or even as far back as 2008, begins a new cycle.

But, I suppose that's the American way, I got mine.

[J.B. Books]

John, I look at this way, the number of people on the PGCA forum in general, much less reload, is too small a number to affect the inventory of these components. The shortage of reloading components is not new news. The retailers I have referenced are the major on-line sources of such supplies, not obscure places to find such things. You are making an assumption that hoarding is the primary cause of the shortages, personnally I believe there is more to it. I thought it might help a few people on here who might be looking for powder because they have had trouble finding it. I will refrain from posting anything further about the availablity of powder unless someone asks if I have seen any.

[charlie cleveland]

myself i appreciate being told where some powder or ammo is..thanks pete... charlie

[C.O.B.]

Pete you do a fine job of keeping us appraised of whats going on out there and please don't stop doing it.

I have boght powder locally for some members who can't find it in their area. Thats what we do here we help each other out and I don't believe that constitutes hoarding in any way.

Information is power, it's what you do with the power that's important.

[OH Osthaus]

interesting opinion John;

personally - i think thats an apple and oranges comparison

the birds are not a manufactured commodity, i respect the natural resource, powder is commercially produced to be burned in guns.

i have managed to scrounge up some of the discontinued 7625 locally lately - once I have what I think I need and will actually use in a reasonable time period , if I find more, I will offer here to pick it up for others. Because its no longer made.

For common still made powders, I get what I need for a while and will take my chances when I need more.

everyone to their own- I consider hoarding to be an act of accumulating more than you ever need or things that you don't need at all. (we can ask Dean's wife for her definition )

[Richard Flanders]

At the Denver gun show recently there were some .22's but prices were high, up to $10/box of 50 and most of it was old stuff coming out of garages and basements. There was powder. I sure wanted to pick up the three 12# kegs of PB I saw but there was no way for me to get them home. We went into Cabelas one day and they had no .22's at all and no powder. All I picked up down there was 9mm and 5.56mm bullets for reloading.

[Smoothebore]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

John, I look at this way, the number of people on the PGCA forum in general, much less reload, is too small a number to affect the inventory of these components. The shortage of reloading components is not new news. The retailers I have referenced are the major on-line sources of such supplies, not obscure places to find such things. You are making an assumption that hoarding is the primary cause of the shortages, personnally I believe there is more to it. I thought it might help a few people on here who might be looking for powder because they have had trouble finding it. I will refrain from posting anything further about the availablity of powder unless someone asks if I have seen any.

Besides the Parker Forum, I frequent the C&R Forum on Maryland Shooters. They have a thread titled "In Stock Now" where everyone writes in to report any good offers by suppliers, that they have run accross. A simple heads up benefits us all. We're all in this sport together, and knowledge is not our enemy.