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Unread 10-03-2012, 07:59 AM   #1
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I was wondering the same thing... Paying too much is all relative.

Looks like the gun has a lot of honest wear, and apart from the "repaired" forend loop, no serious damage.

The P grade was the base grade before the introduction of the VH grade and Trojan. So it is considered a grade 1. Usually fitted with twist steel barrels (as yours is). Some rare examples may have damascus steel. And a small amount had fluid steel before they discontinued the PH grade.

The P grade became kind of a odd duck as time went on since it fell between the VH and GH grades. more people purchased either the cheaper VH or the more embelished and slightly more expensive GH.

Your top lever is wearing in a bit left of where it should be. This can be seen from the "dish" not lining up. This can be corrected if need be. But if the gun is tight, it is not really a concern.

Regarding your other gun. We could give you some ideas if the buttstock is original/correct or not, but we need to see it. Checking for Serial numbers and grade marks under the guard bow is a good place to start too.
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1 grade or PH. The butt pad may be aftermarket but looks fine. If you got the gun and had the money screw em if they say you paid to much for it. How else do you buy a gun, with a check book...
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Nice original PH grade with coveted fishtail lever, and great wood to metal fit indicating that is has probably never been taken apart or messed with. It has been hunting a few times and the resulting wear should not be corrected. The forearm repair should be left as is because it would cost a fortune to correct. It should last a lifetime. If the barrels are still 32" and clean and relatively unpitted inside, this should be a superior shooting gun. The old Jostam pad gives the gun even more character.
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I agree with Bill- that pad is sweet.
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The screws are pretty exceptional for a gun with this much wear and use. This gun is something of a time warp, or "picture of the past". A serious collector would leave as is. The #2 frame, very heavy weight barrels (4 pounds, 12 ounces before final striking), and 32" length are all desired by modern vintage gun shooters. 121 years old, wow.
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well it sounds like I did okay for the price that I did pay.. and once again this evening , I will take and post some superior quality photos ... now as long as nothing breaks or goes haywire I might actually get to keep this 1 !
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well I ended up and about 1500$ for it.....


the other 1 I had was in relic condition but it was a few steps underneath in invincible! had no stock no 4 and but it was a hammer Gunn and the locks screws most of the engraving was still good... I ended up selling it for 2 K+ another thing is I did not take these pictures I will not have the gun in hand for a few more hours . I was told that the lengths of the barrels for this particular gun is an oddity... now don't quote me on this but I think that he said they were 32 inches, I'm not even sure if that means anything....and again I could be wrong about the length of the barrels, but will measure them myself when in hand.
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I like the old Jostam pad very much. You don't see many of those with the fluting on the sides anymore... very nice.
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thank you to everyone for the positive comments especially for the information. I greatly appreciate it. good news is the pieces now in hand! so there's no going back! now all that's left to do is research what kind of investment I have made.....
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just measured it and they are 32 inch barrels.... can somebody give me some background shed some light on that. I'm under the impression that that is pretty rare ..
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