grade 5 trojan?

[smartymouse]

I know its a trojan the barrels are marked trojan and the letter says trojan like i said the gun looks exactly like the bhe on page 94 in the shooting flying experience book they are identical i compared them with my magnifying glass, could the gun have been sent back in later to beeingraved? I have 3 other parkers a gh a vh and a sbt and i have a letter here from a Bill Mullins who it seems went to see my uncles guns who passed away and had a huge collection of guns i was with him alot at guns shows etc but was into his german doubles and drillings and not the parkers so much but i ended up inheriting one and bought the other 3 he still has a 28 gauge that I can't afford, anyhow i need someone in the harrisburg pa area to look at my guns and tell me exactly what they are I know what the gh and and sbt are but the vh is not normal it belonged to a pro baseball player it has barrel guards inlayed in gold and a gold diamond on the floorplate with added ingraving which is poor the sides are that of a ah grade it has a monte carlo stock with a gold cap with name on it and the trigger gaurd has him name ingraved in gold my original question was basically why is this trojan engraved and have the fancy wood etc. all the trojans ive seen were just plain if it was special ordered why didn't the letter say that? just a little confused is all but thanks for the info

[smartymouse]

could be ordered.......,(first day with my new fingers lol)

[OH Osthaus]

No one is going to be able to give a better answer than they already have without clear pictures, please post close up views of all sides of the box (action) certainly the watertable and all of its markings, and views of the barrels and the stock.

Since the barrel marking say Trojan, does the serial number match the rest of the gun?

[smartymouse]

Originally Posted by Rick Losey

No one is going to be able to give a better answer than they already have without clear pictures, please post close up views of all sides of the box (action) certainly the watertable and all of its markings, and views of the barrels and the stock.

Since the barrel marking say Trojan, does the serial number match the rest of the gun?

the numbers all match and the barrel says trojan I will try to get pics this weekend i must leave now for work but the pics will look exactly like the bh on page on page 94 in the shooting flying book looks like the same gun oh well should be fun trying to figure it out gives you guys something to figure out I'm lost thanks Mearl

[Bruce Day]

Those who want to know about Parker shotguns are recommended to buy and read The Parker Story.

Here are several photos. The first set are of original Parker Trojan grade ( OV) guns. The second set is of a Parker Trojan aftermarket engraved and re-stocked by Dick Washburn, a master engraver from Duluth, Minnesota now in his 80's.

[charlie cleveland]

smarty mouse if youre for sure its a trogan grade gun you have got the following two things....either you have a set of trogan barrels fitted to a b grade frame orsomeone has turned this trogan grade gun into what ever they wanted it to be...if some one has turned your true grade trogan into what it is now look at it this way you now have the fun on figuring out who done the nice work on this trogan....if its a true trogan with all this fine up graded work to a b grade in my opinion you are truly lucky to have found it... charlie

[smartymouse]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

smarty mouse if youre for sure its a trogan grade gun you have got the following two things....either you have a set of trogan barrels fitted to a b grade frame orsomeone has turned this trogan grade gun into what ever they wanted it to be...if some one has turned your true grade trogan into what it is now look at it this way you now have the fun on figuring out who done the nice work on this trogan....if its a true trogan with all this fine up graded work to a b grade in my opinion you are truly lucky to have found it... charlie

Charlie, all the numbers match and the barrels are marked trojan I agree with you it looks identical to the bh on page 94 in the shooting flying book i even compared the 2 guns with a magnifying glass however the letter says serial no. 196497 shipped dec 1921 trojan 12 guage pistol grip then mentions length drop at heel and weight and pellet pattern so, I need somebody that really knows these guns to look at it like i said the 3 guys that deal in parkers told me it was factory engraved plus i showed it to an engraver who said it was also? I will try to get pics but must leave now for work and won't be home till the weekend but thank you for the help, Mearl

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Hi Mearl,

PGCA members provided you sound advice and shared their knowledge. You may in fact have a Trojan that was returned to the factory and "upgraded". If that could be proven via a repair record you would indeed have a valuable gun! Without proof a serious collector would not pay for more than your gun is, a Trojan that has been nicely upgraded. Unfortunately, upgrades are rarely worth the money spent on upgrading them.

Those gentlemen from Bass Pro, the engraver, and others who gave you their assessment of your Parker MAY be knowledgeable of this subject. The PGCA members who take their time to share their knowledge and wisdom toward Parkers ARE very knowledgeable. I have learned to strongly consider their advice. Or, you could send your gun to DelGrego, Brad Bachelder, or other noted Parker gunsmiths and pay for their time to access your Parker.

Please try to provide high resolution photos and post for all to see.

PS: I own a AH “upgrade” that many noted PGCA members swear is a AH rather than an upgraded GH. http://www.parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=294
Without proof it is a wonderful upgrade that cost me 1/3 what a documented AH would have.

Mark

[smartymouse]

thank you very much! i will get pics this weekend for starters and go from there thanks again Mearl

[Larry Mason]

Mearl,
Call Heidi at the Double Gun Journal (800-447-1658) and order "The Parker Story" as the gentleman who have responded to your post have suggested. My "blemished" set has been, along with
the PGCA members, an invaluable wealth of information.
Looking foreword to the pics.

Larry