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Dean, depends on whether you are talking about the specific 1937 cataloged Double Trap or whether about hundreds of other double barrelled vent rib guns of various grades and gauges that could be used for shooting trap, skeet or game. TPS lists a lot of vent rib guns. And not all guns that were likely used mainly for trap were vent rib.
I had a discussion with Mark Conrad about the TPS numbers, and it was his opinion that there were a lot more late vent rib guns than were identified in the SN book. There were a lot of late small bore guns too, so maybe it follows that there were a lot of late small bore vent ribs that exist and are not in the books. |
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Thank you all for posting. I am assuming that the trap is not as rare Mr Baer leads me to believe. I am assuming that the above are all 12 gauge guns. Are they out there in any other than 12 gauge? Russ, thanks for sharing the photos of you marked trap gun. Very nice.
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You are welcome Frank ,and I didn't mention ,but my gun in the serialization Book is listed as a 30" 12 Ga. ,in fact it is a , 32", 10 Ga. w/ Lam. Barrels that letters correctly through the PGCA Letter ! Russ
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Russ, That's a wonderful gun. We know that HD Folsom ordered many of these guns with the "Trap" butt plate on them. I suspect they were long barreled 12's and 10's and that the special butt treatment was a sales pitch to sway buyers who were looking for a dedicated trap gun. As we all know trap shooting in that era was as big as major league baseball if not bigger and everyone wanted a piece of the pie.
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"Much care is bestowed to make it what the Sportsman needs-a good gun"-Charles Parker |
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Frank, its pretty unusual to find a small bore vent rib gun, but they are out there, if that is what you mean. If you have a line on one, it would be worth taking a close look at.
Your question could be more precise, because of the ambiguity of calling something a "trap" gun. I have a good friend with a 28" Bernard C, double trigger, splinter forend , Parker flat vent rib. Trap gun? I don't know. I have another friend with a 28ga D, 30" , narrow beavertail, vent rib, flat vent rib. Trap gun? |
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Russ, did the letter say that it was a trap gun?
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David ,The letter does not say " Trap " But the gun was sold by H & D Folsom in the correct time period or just very early in the correct time period and does have the Trap Butt Plate ,There are others that have these guns and I don't believe any of them were called Trap Guns in the letters ,but as Dave says ,probably a marketing pitch ,also we have covered this ground a while back as Dean has said and I just tossed this out there for a little fun conversation ! Russ
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DH(E) Parkers, stocked and choked to the shooters specification, were the choice of some of history's best live and clay trapshooters from 1890 to 1920. PGCA's John Browning gun is a good example. "Trap fore ends" ventilated ribs and single triggers began to appear prior to WW I ( John Dunkle's gun) and became more popular with time until production ended.
The Winchester M12 and M97 were probably the most popular trap guns of the first half of the twentieth century. Many ordinary 16 yd singles shooters continued to prefer the SxS as the two barrels provided a forward weight bias and a smoother swing. Best, Austin |
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