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Old 06-27-2025, 09:23 AM   #1
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I have been thinking about a M21 myself lately. Nothing too rare, just a 12 gauge with nice wood, 30" barrels and tight chokes. The two M21s I have shot were absolutely wonderful in every respect.

Good luck with this one Clark!
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Clark, give us the item number of the gun you are considering. We would like to see it.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:13 AM   #3
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I have a pair of Tournament Skeet’s and pair of Trap grade Skeet’s with between .008 and .012 constriction in the left barrel. Terminal Flare in the right barrel, 26” tubes and checkered butts. Superb guns. I’d like to see what you’re contemplating.



IMO, buyer beware Con Shotgun, CSMC, Standard Manufacturing or whatever the hell they’re calling themselves these days. They’re the worst enemy of Model 21’s since rust.
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I have a pair of Tournament Skeet’s and pair of Trap grade Skeet’s with between .008 and .012 constriction in the left barrel. Terminal Flare in the right barrel, 26” tubes and checkered butts. Superb guns. I’d like to see what you’re contemplating.



IMO, buyer beware Con Shotgun, CSMC, Standard Manufacturing or whatever the hell they’re calling themselves these days. They’re the worst enemy of Model 21’s since rust.
This is the one on GI
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Old 06-27-2025, 02:28 PM   #5
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I requested a letter from Cody on my model 21 and the letter came back stating "Standard" grade. I called and spoke with someone that insisted that my gun was a "Standard" grade even after I told them that the gun was clearly marked "Skeet" on the trigger plate. I think it was Researcher that clarified in an earlier thread that there were grades within grades on the model 21. So I have a Standard Skeet Grade.

Mine was made in 1946 with 26" choked WS 1 and WS 2 barrells weighing 6lbs. 10 ozs. The gun has a single trigger, selective ejectors, and a non-automatic safety
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Cody and/or the surviving factory records do not seem to be as consistent with the grade/gun terminology as the catalogs were.
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There was a fella on a site I used to frequent that had a 21; fairly early I'd guess with bolsters, double triggers, splinter forend etc. No engraving, action very plain with just the kind of wear you'd like to see on a well-loved field gun. I always thought it was one of the classiest shotguns I'd ever seen.
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My favorite 21s are double trigger, extractor, splinter forend guns. I have a 12, but sold my 20 cheap, years ago, to a shooting buddy who resold it recently for a price I would not pay.
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Be very careful on this gun as guns.com has exact pictures of this gun listed also for sale. There GI # is 103164595. Something is not right about this.
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How does the seller get 1933 manufacture with a 20800 serial number? More likely late 1940s. A Model 21 Skeet Gun from 1932 trough 1935 gun would be a Tournament Grade Skeet Gun --

Winchester Model-21, Tournament Grade, Skeet Gun, 20-Gauge, 26-inch, Vent-Rib 01 12080.jpg

or a Trap Grade Skeet Gun --

WINCHESTER MODEL-21, TRAP GRADE, SKEET Gun, 12-GAUGE 01 26xx.jpg

Also, for 1932 & 3 Winchester only cataloged the Model 21 Skeet Gun with a straight grip. The pistol grip Model 21 Skeet Gun first appears in the 1934 catalogs. Most of the pre-war Model 21 Skeet Gun pistol grips were capless, like my 1941 16-gauge Standard Grade Model 21 Skeet Gun --

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but a capped pistol grip was available.
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