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Unread 03-28-2025, 11:07 AM   #1
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On the examples I have seen he normally signed on the side of the receiver. Sometimes he would engrave "ABEE" and then his signature engraved bee. It shouldnt be hard to find if Bee did the work.
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On the examples I have seen he normally signed on the side of the receiver. Sometimes he would engrave "ABEE" and then his signature engraved bee. It shouldnt be hard to find if Bee did the work.
I almost bought an Angelo Bee engraved K-32 three or four years ago and it was signed “ABEE” .
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Finally found something. Tucked in tight within the engraving on the trigger plate.
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Albin Obinsching who did a lot of work in the 60's and 70's from Germany.May have the spelling a bit wrong.
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Albin Obinsching who did a lot of work in the 60's and 70's from Germany.May have the spelling a bit wrong.
Thank you.

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Albin Obiltschnig; (correct spelling) 1894-1975 was one of the most respected Ferlach, Austrian gun engravers of his time and father of engraver Hans Obiltschnig. Innovator of relief scene work incorporating Diana, goddess of the hunt which is sometimes referred to in Ferlach as an "Obiltschnig motif."
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Albin Obiltschnig; (correct spelling) 1894-1975 was one of the most respected Ferlach, Austrian gun engravers of his time and father of engraver Hans Obiltschnig. Innovator of relief scene work incorporating Diana, goddess of the hunt which is sometimes referred to in Ferlach as an "Obiltschnig motif."

I wonder if he created the Diana grade Fox?




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I think many makers had a special gun, using Diana, or Goddess Of The Hunt. Holland & Holland had more than one. A Royal Grade double rifle, and a Royal 12 bore SxS. Browning had a Diana.
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It was usually not obscured but rather in a small clean area.





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I am speaking of a specific Fox Edgar. It is mounted in a velvet-lined walnut display case.
It consists of just the elaborately engraved frame with a 4” section of the highly engraved barrel block.
An esteemed PGCA member owns it. If you haven’t seen it you should and you’ll see the similarity of its engraving to Obiltschnig’s work.

I have pictures of it at home but I’m not there currently.



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I don’t think I’d call this an upgraded gun but rather an embellished gun . But that’s my own personal opinion . I wonder why they didn’t engrave the barrel wedges all the way back ? Can’t say I’m overly fond of the plain unengraved ring they left .
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