Unusual Engraving, and Markings

[Dean Romig]

On the whole, without naming names, the entire PGCA membership.






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[mobirdhunter]

I feel like I've seen that front end lower dog on something of mine before, and I'll check to see (and if I can discern a "rock" in the engraving).

Also, if it's okay to ask -- that last photo of an engraved dog: when was that made? I would swear it is from the era Dean suggests -- the 1920s. I hope I'm not getting us off the trail, but inquiring minds want to know (and so do I).

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

I feel like I've seen that front end lower dog on something of mine before, and I'll check to see (and if I can discern a "rock" in the engraving).

Also, if it's okay to ask -- that last photo of an engraved dog: when was that made? I would swear it is from the era Dean suggests -- the 1920s. I hope I'm not getting us off the trail, but inquiring minds want to know (and so do I).

Frederick Anschutz died in 1930 and we see none of those dogs engraved later than that year. I’m sure some were still “in the works” at the time of his death and they may have order dates a bit later but still within 1930-31, I would think.





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[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Frederick Anschutz died in 1930 and we see none of those dogs engraved later than that year. I’m sure some were still “in the works” at the time of his death and they may have order dates a bit later but still within 1930-31, I would think.





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Thanks, Dean.

So, wouldn't this style dog fit within the 1920s timeframe, as it matches all of my guns from that time (that have dogs)?

So, Edgar, when was this engraving done?

[Dean Romig]

It absolutely would Garry.-
Anschutz, tenure as the Parker chief engraver was from 1911-1930.





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[edgarspencer]

The gun shown in the last photo was engraved by Henry Gough, in 1897. It is a 16ga DH.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

The gun shown in the last photo was engraved by Henry Gough, in 1897. It is a 16ga DH.

Here we go again Edgar.... I must strongly disagree with that statement. Look again at the picture then look at the gun's serial number. That is an Anschutz engraved "setter".
I don't need to see the serial number to know what I'm looking at.

Best Always,
Dean





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[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Here we go again Edgar.... I must strongly disagree with that statement. Look again at the picture then look at the gun's serial number. That is an Anschutz engraved "setter".
I don't need to see the serial number to know what I'm looking at.

Best Always,
Dean





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I'm with Dean on this. I've never seen a gun as early as that with that style setter...and have seen plenty in the 1920s with the strongly contoured, simplistic drawing like the one in that third photo. Check the serial number again. Perhaps you have confused it with another of your guns(?). I certainly can be wrong, and I'm an expert in absolutely nothing.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

I'm with Dean on this. Perhaps you have confused it with another of your guns(?). I certainly can be wrong, and I'm an expert in absolutely nothing.

The two of you are bent on convincing me I should be in a home.
I have 6 grade 3 guns and I could have grabbed one gun, then when I went to check when it was made, grabbed another. I will check when I get home.

[Researcher]

From all the photos I've saved, I see the sort of ampersand symbol appearing very regularly once the J.G. in oval stamp of Jim Geary begins appearing in about the 162xxx range. I see the ampersand symbol pretty regularly into the 180xxx range.

163016 03.jpg

162759 02 big P.S..jpg

159801 01 DH 8-gauge, 6 frame.jpg

180703 01 30-inch.jpg

Here is one in the 174xxx range that also has the two dots.

174616 02 KL3 K = May L = 1942.jpg