Trigger identification

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Dean Weber

I will not speak for the quality comparison, but I have 2 Parkers where the original Parker single trigger was removed and the Miller installed. Both of mine are this early version of the selector being part of the safety.

In the historical threads I've found on our site the general opinion is that the Miller trigger system was as good as there was available. (also learned that Dan May owns or did own Miller trigger) I do have a Parker single trigger gun at the gunsmith now because it wasn't firing the 2nd barrel regardless of which barrel was fired first. I believe the spring or whatever system was employed to move the trigger forward after firing is worn or broken having test fired it several times being sure to completely release the trigger after firing.

[Reggie B]

I have a grade 4 16 with a Miller trigger just like yours. It functions very well.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop

I have a grade 4 16 with a Miller trigger just like yours. It functions very well.

Probably a beautiful, high original condition long legged Gal if I had to guess.

[B. Dudley]

Miller triggers are an excellent design. they are simple and for the most part very reliable. The installs of millers by the miller brothers were pretty crude. Especially on the inside. But, they do work. Miller triggers were available to be installed by some makers by the request of customers once they became popular. I do not know the full line of ownership, but Turnbull owned the Miller “company” for a while. And the “company” consisted of the name rights and a box of parts/fixtures. Dan May, who used to work for Doug before starting Classic Gunstocks with Ken Waite purchased the Miller Company from Doug and he still owns it now and is very good at installing them now as well as servicing them and other various single trigger mechanisms.

[Rick Roemer]

I recently had Dan May perform some work on a .410. He is very reputable and honest.

[Researcher]

Ithaca Gun Co. used the Miller single selective trigger from late in the Flues era to 1933. For most of that time the trigger was $30 then went up to $32.45 the last couple of years. By 1934 they switched to a similar looking trigger designed by their man Harry Howland and the price dropped to $21.60.

[Cold Spring]

Pic of a crude "cutout" in the safety spring on a high grade Fox with the earlier version of the Miller. That cutout engages with the rocker that shifts the trigger.
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[Alfred Greeson]

I have a VHE 20 with the same Miller you discussed. I spoke with the Miller brothers at one time and the older, well in his 80's, said not to worry, if I had any problem his younger brother would take care of it for me if he was not around. His younger brother was 84 at the time. Great attitude and customer service. Never had any problem.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Alfred Greeson

I have a VHE 20 with the same Miller you discussed. I spoke with the Miller brothers at one time and the older, well in his 80's, said not to worry, if I had any problem his younger brother would take care of it for me if he was not around. His younger brother was 84 at the time. Great attitude and customer service. Never had any problem.

I love optimism. Haha. Alfred, I don’t have any concerns re: possible issues and repair, especially learning that Dan May is involved. I’ve learned a tremendous amount from this group and perhaps the most important thing is that no matter what the issue is, someone here can fix it or knows someone who can.

[B. Dudley]

In modern times, many single trigger designs in manufacturers guns are based on the Miller design.