China ? NO NO NO.

[david ross]

Hi Milton.
As you say alot of illinformed people in the UK are against hunting shooting ect but we will
never let them win . Hunting shooting and fishing are a way of life in the UK and we will
not let them take that from us. As in the words of SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL WE SHALL
NEVER SURENDER.

[Milton Starr]

Hunting is a hobby and our right to do it. The is with guns people.who aren't around them or spend time around them develop a misunderstanding of.what they are. Its like I tell people though no matter what I will have me a shotgun till I die.one of.my favorite hunting videos is of a british gentleman hunting on the shore line with a tolley 8 ga.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Milton Starr

Hunting is a hobby and our right to do it. The is with guns people.who aren't around them or spend time around them develop a misunderstanding of.what they are.

The key to the future of firearms and the shooting sports in any country that still enjoys them is the education of the uninformed and to show them how safe it is and how much fun shooting can be. And, of course, getting young people involved and interested will help to ensure the survival of the shooting sports.

[charlie cleveland]

some people have all the luck...nice find richard...that gun may be a grouse gun for sure but i betcha she would be a fine quail gun and i would not be surprized if it mite not be a good phez gun... waiting for pictures charlie and the rest of the gang

[Milton Starr]

Lots of guns are aluminum nowadays but me personally like my shotguns 9 lbs + . I think my crass was made in 1891 if they made hammerless crass at that time? I think its serial number is 150xx ithaca said they lost records on numbers from 10,000-16000. I like the simple yet sturdy mechanisms of yesteryear

[Dean Romig]

Hey Rich... Where are the pictures???

( to think,... I had that gun in my hands {put 'despair and anguish' emoticon here} )

[C.O.B.]

Dean there in my mind waiting to be developed Actually I'll try to take them tonight and get them posted on the Other Fine Doubles section....If I can get the O.P. to walk me through the process

[Milton Starr]

Talking about made in america any of y'all heard of Butch searcy. That's my icon. He males fine sxs rifles not shotguns yet.though

[C.O.B.]

The Holland & Holland pics are up in the "Other Fine Doubles" catagory titled British Best. My thanks to the O.P. AKA Dave Suponski hor walking me through this quagmire of Technology

I have herd of Butch Searcy and he makes a fine double rifle. A 450/400 would make a fine deer rifle. I hear you snickering but I've used my 416 Taylor befor