Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 08-25-2021, 04:03 PM   #1
Member
Reggie B
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Reggie Bishop's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,994
Thanks: 3,603
Thanked 4,650 Times in 1,720 Posts

Default

So Randy, in summary, it its a rare bird stock drop doesn't kill the deal for you even if it means bending it and changing the factory specs? I once owned a very high condition, straight stocked Fox that the previous owner had bent the stock and it no longer matched the factory card dimensions. When I got some opinions on the gun most people would say "its a shame the stock was messed with".
__________________
"Training is like fighting a gorilla, you don't stop when you are tired, you stop when the gorilla is tired"
Reggie Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-25-2021, 04:28 PM   #2
Member
Randy Roberts
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Randy G Roberts's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,403
Thanks: 5,370
Thanked 7,114 Times in 2,231 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop View Post
So Randy, in summary, it its a rare bird stock drop doesn't kill the deal for you even if it means bending it and changing the factory specs? I once owned a very high condition, straight stocked Fox that the previous owner had bent the stock and it no longer matched the factory card dimensions. When I got some opinions on the gun most people would say "its a shame the stock was messed with".
Correct Reggie. Bending to fit me is something I will do. If my Executors or the next owner gets all worked up over it they can always bend it back.
Randy G Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Randy G Roberts For Your Post:
Unread 08-25-2021, 04:57 PM   #3
Member
Double Lab
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Daryl Corona's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,479
Thanks: 20,294
Thanked 8,968 Times in 3,361 Posts

Default

On a smallbore, as any gauge, it's the barrels that sell the gun to me. I can live and shoot a variety of stock dimensions but if the barrels aren't solid then it's a gun that I will pass on.
__________________
Wag more- Bark less.
Daryl Corona is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Daryl Corona For Your Post:
Unread 08-25-2021, 06:57 PM   #4
Member
Mike of the Mountain
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 6,544
Thanks: 20,251
Thanked 13,027 Times in 3,845 Posts

Default

If the gun is a 10, 12 or 16g and has over 3” of drop I’ll probably pass. I want guns to shoot and want to dump a lot more $$ into one of them since there are more of those out there. Now if we’re talking a 20, 28 or .410, that’s a totally different story.

I’d also have no problem buying a gun that’s too high at comb and heel. I can lower a stock to fit me. I also don’t care if stock dimensions do not match a letter, I care about shooting.
Mike Koneski is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Mike Koneski For Your Post:
Visit Mike Koneski's homepage!
Unread 08-25-2021, 04:28 PM   #5
Member
Kevin McCormack
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,419
Thanks: 2,117
Thanked 4,872 Times in 1,329 Posts

Default

At the price you are going to have to pay for a graded Parker or Fox 32" 20 gauge, the prospect of having to spend the money for a restock due to unshootable dimensions will become a speed bump on the highway of life, trust me. So far as a 32" Parker 28 gauge, the cost becomes almost inconsequential.
Kevin McCormack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Kevin McCormack For Your Post:
Unread 08-25-2021, 05:16 PM   #6
Member
Craig Larter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Craig Larter's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,022
Thanks: 3,741
Thanked 13,401 Times in 2,051 Posts

Default

I'm with Randy, DAC is more important to me than DAH. I only buy damascus Parkers so most that I encounter have plenty of drop. I'm also like Dean, I can adopt to different drops, it may take a couple of targets to adjust. On my guns with 2" of DAC I use a Leatherman comb riser and find it very comfortable. Reggie, I would buy and have bought Parkers with stock dimensions that are not my ideal. I would not consider a gun with 3 1/4" DAH or greater. I won't bend stocks or make modifications to make them fit However, I can understand competitive shooters going down that road.
Craig Larter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Craig Larter For Your Post:
Unread 08-25-2021, 05:28 PM   #7
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,988
Thanks: 6,838
Thanked 9,682 Times in 4,245 Posts

Default

I’ve always shot them the way they came and did very well with a plethora of different dimensions . Now however I’m finding I’ve seemed to have gravitated to the less drop crowd . I personally have never had one bent or had one restocked . But never say never I’m in negotiations as we speak with a stock maker friend for a GH 12 32” that the stock isn’t original to the gun and has been changed into far more modern dimensions .
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CraigThompson For Your Post:
Unread 08-25-2021, 05:36 PM   #8
Member
Randy Roberts
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Randy G Roberts's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,403
Thanks: 5,370
Thanked 7,114 Times in 2,231 Posts

Default

[QUOTE=Craig Larter;341865]I'm with Randy, DAC is more important to me than DAH. I only buy damascus Parkers so most that I encounter have plenty of drop. I'm also like Dean, I can adopt to different drops, it may take a couple of targets to adjust. On my guns with 2" of DAC I use a Leatherman comb riser and find it very comfortable. Reggie, I would buy and have bought Parkers with stock dimensions that are not my ideal. I would not consider a gun with 3 1/2" DAH or greater. I won't bend stocks or make modifications to make them fit However, I can understand competitive shooters going down that road.[/QUOTE

The Leatherman is one that I really like, comfortable to say the least.
Randy G Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-25-2021, 05:44 PM   #9
Member
SXS OHIO
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,743
Thanks: 614
Thanked 2,369 Times in 623 Posts

Default

I'm bird hunter first......wild birds that is. The action is fast and the hunter has little time to think about his gun mount, it must be fluid. That said my first line hunting guns have dimensions that fit me. I have a 5'x5' steel plate here at my home. I test my guns to see point of aim when shouldering and shooting the gun like in a hunting situation. Then adjustments can be made if needed. I have tried hunting with guns that have a little more drop than I normally shoot.....yes I shoot the roosters legs off. 1/4" makes a big difference at 35 yards! If you shoot sporting clays, gun fit is less important as most shooting is done with gun pre mounted....thats cheating in my book! Anyway thats my take on stock fit. One exception to most of this....if you only shoot one shotgun you will learn to shoot that gun fairly well. Its when you swap guns is when the trouble really starts! SXS Ohio
Kenny Graft is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Kenny Graft For Your Post:
Unread 08-25-2021, 07:13 PM   #10
Member
Reggie B
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Reggie Bishop's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,994
Thanks: 3,603
Thanked 4,650 Times in 1,720 Posts

Default

Most seem to be responding from a shooters standpoint which is great. What about from a collecting standpoint? I like long barrels, small bores with lots of original condition. Hard to find. So when I run across one I am very interested despite stock dimensions. If for example a nice high condition BHE 20 came along with 30” or 32” barrels I am interested despite drop at heel or comb because they are in my sweet spot. Keep the responses coming!
__________________
"Training is like fighting a gorilla, you don't stop when you are tired, you stop when the gorilla is tired"
Reggie Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:08 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2026, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.