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At the Las Vegas show in 2003 I bought a pair of English 28-gauge snap caps for my 28-gauge No. 2 NID and the gun wouldn't fully close on them. Returned them at the 2004 show. The English gun maker stated that early 28-gauges had thinner rims.
My 28-gauge Model 12 Skeet Gun won't quite close on modern 28-gauge rims, but functions like greased lightning with old paper Super-X or Super-Speed shells. It worked fine for years with the early 28-gauge AAs?!? I seem to recall Babe saying something about having to recut the rim recesses on early Parker Bros. 28-gauges. |
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03-19-2021, 03:02 PM
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Dave, what year was your M12 Skeet gun made?
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03-19-2021, 03:12 PM
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They weren't bombing in London during my many business trips there but I did get bombed never the less.
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03-19-2021, 03:32 PM
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Yes is not uncommon for early 28 gauge guns to have extractor rim cuts that are too shallow for later-manufactured shells. Lawrence relieved the extractor rim cuts on both of my early VH 28s.
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03-19-2021, 04:31 PM
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"Shallow" is not the problem. Diameter is the problem. One of our members owns a 28 gauge rim cutter and forcing cone cutter which he lent to me several years ago. It took me about 20 seconds to take care of the problem in two guns. It was much easier than the setup I did on a Bridgeport vertical mill about forty years ago for my first 28 gauge. Let me know.
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03-19-2021, 04:43 PM
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You're very kind, Mike. I was always taught to respect my elders. Kindness aside, Birmabrite (aircraft Aluminium) had not been perfected for the skin of aircraft at that time. Cotton Canvas was all they knew. I'm certain that's where Daryl learned to appreciate those shorts he sports. Still, he is a legend, and in Churchill's memoirs of WW2, he was bemoaning that there weren't more flyers like 'Capt. Corona' He went on to say how much he appreciated, as a young man, the Captain teaching him how to smoke a fine cigar.
Dave and Kevin, as Monsignor Murphy pointed out, at least in the case of my VH, and his own, that it is the diameter that is causing the rims to stick in the recess. The depth seems ok, but I will be recutting the rim recess this week in any case. It couldn't be more appropriate that I will be using Hayes' personal rim cutter to accomplish this. |
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03-19-2021, 05:00 PM
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But was Hayes’ rim cutter made to the later wider size?
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