"Frontier Issued"

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Harry Neil

It is the same with rifle scopes....The old 3, 4 and 6 powers that were efficient and balanced well on a rifle are no longer adequate to kill Deer at 300 yards..

Most of the young crew today need 4x20x50mm, with big knobs and a reticle that looks like a Christmas tree. All to kill a Deer out of a tree stand-you mean you actually walk around?-at 100 yards.

Not all but very many, and admittedly there are some who use the new stuff with amazing accuracy....However, the outdoor shows have changed how America hunts...

I doubt they will find anything shiny in relics...

Now see locally everyone loves the newest and latest semi auto shotguns however when it comes to rifles the cheapest bolt action with the cheapest
3-9x40 is the most popular . Most of those being short actions like a 243 , I have actually never met another hunter locally that used a 30-06 which is often called the most popular deer round .

My favorite cheap and simple scope was the Redfield 4-12 Leupold was making a few years back .

I think the common advice you see " your scope should cost as much as your rifle" is misguided . The scope should best fit your specfic application you intend to use it for .

[Battue]

In the future please refrain from adding words to my quotes.
I know what you meant, and also know there was no offense meant. However, down the road I may have to defend what I did say. I prefer not having to possibly defend, nor remember what I didn’t.

I agree on the sales pitch.

Addition: I see another post was added before I replied, which was not directed at Milton Star.

[Craig Larter]

Wooden decoys were once burned, then traded for the new fangled plastic, then sold off to picker for $1.00 each, then they were recognized as American Folk art in the 1960's and market prices exploded and is still very strong. Many new young faces attend auction previews and many more participate on-line. If they hunt be assured they hunt with plastic decoys and not vintage wooden decoys but they must feel a connection to the objects. The same may happen with American side by side shotguns they are in a sense American folk art mostly hand crafted. Future generations may hunt with their black guns and own Parkers because they appreciate them as man made objects from a different time.

[Battue]

My Father collected old cars and loved the Model A of his youth. The current old guys want 60’s muscle cars and you have to look hard for someone willing to pay big money for a pristine Model A.

Perhaps that will change when the gasoline engine passes the torch to electric, hydrogen, etc.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Harry Neil

In the future please refrain from adding words to my quotes.
I know what you meant, and also know there was no offense meant. However, down the road I may have to defend what I did say. I prefer not having to possibly defend, nor remember what I didn’t.

I agree on the sales pitch.

Addition: I see another post was added before I replied, which was not directed at Milton Star.

Dear Mr. Neil - I didn’t alter your post at all - it is still there in its entirety with nothing added or removed, and it still conveys the exact message you had intended.
In deference to you sir, I have removed the objectionable “quote” with my thoughts added.

If in the future you want to find your own words simply go into the search function and type in your name and all of your posts will come up. If however you typed my name in the search function you will find all of mine, including my post where I “quoted” you and added my words to it... but I deleted the part that was offensive to you.

I apologize for having offended you.




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[Battue]

It is all good and I understand how quotes can be retrieved. However, I have seen the same circumstance cause a difficult situation on other forums. We have etiquette that we abide by in the field and while handling firearms. There is also an internet etiquette that says adding additional words to another’s post, is frowned upon. I also understand it is often used for humorous purposes when the individuals are familiar with each other. As mentioned, I know you meant no offense. However, I wouldn’t do the same to you, especially knowing I’m the new guy here.

Apologies not required, however appreciated.

[mobirdhunter]

An interesting thread (thanks, Craig). You can't go wrong if you acquire what you love (and keep it). There are folks in the next generation that have interests in guns from the past. Just not many. So Milton's question posed by a younger acquaintance of his needs a thoughtful answer. I wonder how well I'd do answering that?

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

An interesting thread (thanks, Craig). You can't go wrong if you acquire what you love (and keep it). There are folks in the next generation that have interests in guns from the past. Just not many. So Milton's question posed by a younger acquaintance of his needs a thoughtful answer. I wonder how well I'd do answering that?

I try explaining to them how much labor goes into building a good quality sxs .Especially back then .
I think its normally a waste of energy , you have to have a love for these old guns to understand their value .

[Battue]

The buyers of today are the millennials and they are not into many of the things we thought important...Cars, guns, hunting, houses to name a few...Also many of them are- right or wrong-strapped with school debt. I work with at least 10 who are paying off school loans of $100,000 to $200,000 and there isn't much left over for the extras after $1000-$1200 goes off the top each month....One Doc is at $600,000 and it isn't over. They are good workers and great individuals. Have taken 5 or so of them shooting and paid the bill....They would love to go on a regular basis, but the budget doesn't allow it...Parkers???? Not right now....

[mobirdhunter]

I often catch myself sounding like my parents' generation. Hmmm...

Many of the guys I see and read of in publications like Project Upland are millennials. They do it their way, but I see upland hunting values in them that I have held myself for so many years (and got from my father). And I also see some nice double guns.

Aren't some of "us" on the younger side, too?