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Unread 03-01-2020, 04:19 PM   #11
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Happy Birthday my friend, hope we both have a few more. Have you ever stopped to think how many raffle tickets you have sold over the years, Thank you for what you have done and continue to do, Gary
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Done, and doner. Letter request emailed. Hope this answers the question(s)
That said, when was the first known example of 3" 12 ga. chambers first produced?
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good question...hope someone can answer this for you...charlie
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I'd bet Parker Bros. was chambering 12-gauge "Pigeon Guns" for 3-inch 12-gauge shells in the 1890s, maybe earlier.

In those days the long shells didn't have a heavier payload. More/better wadding was their feature.

Fred Gilbert Winchester Leaders.jpg

LEADER 12-gauge 3-inch Special Wadding.jpg

The 12-gauge 3-inch progressive burning powder, high velocity loads with 1 3/8 ounce of shot came on the market circa 1924/5 --

Early 12-gauge RECORD Super-X 3-inch.jpg

The 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum load with 1 5/8 ounce of shot came out in 1935, along with Winchester's Model 12 Heavy Duck.
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really like those 3 inch shell boxes..i have 2 boxes of the 3 inch record shells and a few boxes of the 3 inch 1 3/8 ounce loads in 12 ga ive got to learn how to post pictures....charlie
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Unread 03-08-2020, 10:31 AM   #17
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The letter arrived yesterday. (Thanks Chuck) The pedigree of the gun was confirmed. Ownership, choke boring, (IC/Full. Dimensions, etc.
The gun was purchased in 1905, and then returned to the factory for a complete tune-up in 1909.
No mention of the chamber lengths, so all we can do is speculate.
Parker Letter BHE 132686.pdf
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Deep South bird hunting town. Not likely a quail gun though!
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Unread 03-08-2020, 11:16 AM   #19
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He spec'd it at 8 lbs, and evidently wanted an open first shot, and super tight second barrel.
The same combination I have preferred on hand thrown pigeons. (Hmmmm) Then you throw in 3" chambers. Waterfowl?
I wish this gun could talk.
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Very interesting.
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