sxs 8 gauge muzzleloader

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

Ed rayl I believe is his name makes a true 4 gauge barrel.
1.053" iirc but I couldn't find anyone who builds sxs muzzleloader .

Before I found this 8 gauge I had looked at 8 gauge barrels from rice . But once again couldn't find any muzzleloader builders who could build a sxs .

Ed Rayl makes very good ML barrels I've shot several guns that were built around his barrels . Matter of fact a friend was having a SxS 12 gauge flinter built around a set of Rayl barrels unfortunately my friend met his demise before the gun was finished .

Most decent ML builders are going to charge a good fee to build any ML much less a SxS .

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

Ed Rayl makes very good ML barrels I've shot several guns that were built around his barrels . Matter of fact a friend was having a SxS 12 gauge flinter built around a set of Rayl barrels unfortunately my friend met his demise before the gun was finished .

Most decent ML builders are going to charge a good fee to build any ML much less a SxS .

I could have had a single 8 or 4 bore flinterbuilt for around 2,000$ but I really wanted a sxs in 8 gauge pretty much my dream shotgun . I think the single 4 bore would probably have weighed 16lbs which is way too light to me for a 4 bore .

I found a parker 8 gauge that could possibly be mine eventually .
This 8 gauge muzzleloader looked to be in better shape than alot of the ones I was looking at on gunsinternational so I jumped on it .

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

I could have had a single 8 or 4 bore flinterbuilt for around 2,000$ but I really wanted a sxs in 8 gauge pretty much my dream shotgun . I think the single 4 bore would probably have weighed 16lbs which is way too light to me for a 4 bore .

I found a parker 8 gauge that could possibly be mine eventually .
This 8 gauge muzzleloader looked to be in better shape than alot of the ones I was looking at on gunsinternational so I jumped on it .

As near as I can figure my friends SxS would have cost him about 16G's by the time it was finished . I'll refrain from naming the builder as I tend to think he was taking advantage of my friend . I think for a flinter double 8-10 G's is certainly in the spectrum .

[Milton C Starr]

I just noticed it has dual key ways or what ever they are called for the barrels to lock into place . That is unusual I dont think I have ever seen that on a shotgun before .

[Big D]

Often, guns which were secured to the punt, when fired, would collapse the boat. I think they finally figured out that the best thing to do was cushion the recoil with tight bags of marsh grass as recoil pads behind the gun, in front of the transom

[Harry Collins]

I've seen some punt guns with rope to absorb recoil much like the cannon aboard sailing ships. This in addition to what John mentioned.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Harry Collins

I've seen some punt guns with rope to absorb recoil much like the cannon aboard sailing ships. This in addition to what John mentioned.

Seems like these 8 gauge market guns are kind of a in between of a true punt gun and a shoulder fired gun . I have read a little of them being used for both . At 16lbs it is heavy but still litter than a 4 bore fowling piece haha .

[stumpstalker]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

Seems like these 8 gauge market guns are kind of a in between of a true punt gun and a shoulder fired gun . I have read a little of them being used for both . At 16lbs it is heavy but still litter than a 4 bore fowling piece haha .

Milton:

If you have not viewed the youtube video that PGCA Member "OH Osthaus" posted a while back about the E. M. Reilly 8-bore used for wildfowling on the marsh in Scotland, it is well-worth seeing -- or even revisiting, as I just did.

William Wykes, his dog "Jake" and the 8-bore connect with a Goose, leading it by an estimated 14 feet.

Granted he's a robust-looking young fellow, and all of us aren't; but it is the best kind of outdoor story. His enthusiasm for the whole panoply -- the legacy 8-bore; the wetlands; the weather; the traditions involved; right down to the ritual cleaning of the gun, is inspiring.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u9oyRDslU8

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Russell E. Cleary

Milton:

If you have not viewed the youtube video that PGCA Member "OH Osthaus" posted a while back about the E. M. Reilly 8-bore used for wildfowling on the marsh in Scotland, it is well-worth seeing -- or even revisiting, as I just did.

William Wykes, his dog "Jake" and the 8-bore connect with a Goose, leading it by an estimated 14 feet.

Granted he's a robust-looking young fellow, and all of us aren't; but it is the best kind of outdoor story. His enthusiasm for the whole panoply -- the legacy 8-bore; the wetlands; the weather; the traditions involved; right down to the ritual cleaning of the gun, is inspiring.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u9oyRDslU8

Thank you I will give it a watch , have you seen this video of this english gentleman hunting with his Tolley 8 gauge ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJS8PBqdF8g

I may get the chance to try the 8 gauge out on coyotes this year .
I know alot of people use 12 gauges and some 10s so I figure the 8 gauge should be able to work .

[Woodcock survey]

I had the good fortune to know a market hunter when I first started hunting. He was a cousin to my hunting partner and a taxidermist that would mount and sell the birds we shot and we could pick up the meat the next day. He told us of baiting a pond near his house morning and night then using 2 10 doubles, 2 barrels on the water rested on a log the second 2 as the survivors rose then shooting the cripples with a Winchester 97 with an extended magazine. He gathered them up and sent them to Boston on the morning train getting payment on the return train.He did this twice a day until '' the law came on them. An 8 would have made his work easier