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Old 01-07-2019, 02:34 PM   #1
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As I indicated before.... the serial number will probably tell the story. Heck, we've seen some stunning early AH guns with birds () on them...





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The receiver was blued and not cased, the restock is a loose assumption but the butt does not match the for-end and the wood is much lighter, it has a pad and is void of the insignia? plate (not sure what to call that). The serial number is in the 170K's. From internet pics it looks to be a GH?

I will inquire about sharing the pics/serial number, I am very adamant about respecting friends/acquaintances and I don't know how this person would feel if I shared this information.
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Edgar,

I will admit that this whole mess was a perfect example of my jumping to conclusions which I can do at times.

I will amend my comments simply to...

The fact that the bluing of the whole gun, restocking of the gun and replacement of the original barrels will have a significant impact on the value of the gun vs if it was original and unaltered.
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The fact that the bluing of the whole gun, restocking of the gun and replacement of the original barrels will have a significant impact on the value of the gun vs if it was original and unaltered.
Undoubtedly.
This is similar in nature to the recent thread about the gun altered by Col. Askins.
I have a 20ga. DHE that belonged to Otis Odom, and was altered by him. The butt stock was originally a PG stock, which he altered to straight. He straightened out the trigger guard, and did a beautiful job of inletting and checkering around the trigger guard tang. I think it's done to the highest quality of the many I have seen similarly modified, but recognize it's value is diminished greatly (fortunately, the guy who sold it to me felt the same way)
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Wow, didn't mean to stir up a storm here, I was simply questioning whether or not the aftermarket barrels made a difference on something besides a V grade gun. I guess I thought by mentioning the "birds" it would be understood that it was not simply a V Grade gun. I guess I posed the question wrong.
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And then that brings up the eternal debate of weather provenance outweighs condition. Depends on which side of the deal you are on.
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From a pure $$$ (investment) standpoint, condition will always (with rare exceptions) outweigh provenance. From a collectible viewpoint, it depends on what you are collecting. Original condition may not be a priority for you and play only a small part of what you would be willing to pay for a particular "well owned" gun. I think you have to view it from the stand point of: Are you investing? Are you collecting? or Perhaps you are doing both?
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This is similar in nature to the recent thread about the gun altered by Col. Askins.
The Parker Bros. DHE 10-gauge was not altered by Major Askins. Major Askins was editor of the Shotguns portion of the Arms & Ammunition section of Outdoor Life until mid-1941. That particular article was actually by J.A. MacKenzie of Toronto, Canada.
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At least the fore end tip wasn’t blued.
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