What do i have? (PIC HEAVY)

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okay, couldn't wait, so had a chat with Google. For others who may be terminology challenged

FENCES

Cheers,
Jack

[Dean Romig]

Sorry I didn't see your question earlier Jack. That's a great link for fences. I use the term 'breech balls' a lot too.

[Big D]

Hallowell has a good glossary of gun terms:

http://www.hallowellco.com/abbrevia.htm

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John: Thanks for that. Spent a lifetime using guns but only a short time as a student of same.

Cheers,
Jack

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Sorry I didn't see your question earlier Jack. That's a great link for fences. I use the term 'breech balls' a lot too.

Breech balls I understood and now fences. The origin of the term fences is well described by this picture, also used on the Hallowell site.

[Austin W Hogan]

The picture of the fore end is not sharp enough to show a small "bow tie" diamond in the center which corresponds to Grade two; but the checking pattern is not the multi diamond pattern on the dam 3. A fore end swap during the last 120 years is not out of the question.
I have a two barrel set about two years older with similar filing and engraving. It has two matched weight barrels; one a twist and one damascus.
There was condiderable flux in engraving and decoration prior to about s/n 22000. Two things seem to be consistent and definitive; the two grade had three distinct diamonds in the fore end checking pattern; the higher grades had a different pin layout for the rebounding hammer.
My bet would be that this is one of the few dam 1 guns that we occassionally find.

Best, Austin

[Austin W Hogan]

The two barrel set gun 4361 has appeared in several Parker Pages since 1999. It isn't much for condition but is very interesting in several aspects. I acquired it before the archive became available and don't have a letter on it, but it does show as a Grade T 10 ga single barrel set in the serialization.
The barrel sets are numbered 1 and 2. Barrel set 1 is the damascus set and has a multi diamond fore end. Chamber is .856 and bore is .808. Left choke.767. right .777. It has inserts brazed in the hinge and locking lug, which were shown in an early PP. It is 30 1/16 inch and weighs 4 pounds 1.4 ounces.
The barrel set numbered 2 is .790 bore and an even 30 inches. It weighs 4 pounds 0.4 ounces, and has a two diamond fore end checking pattern.
The gun appearred in another issue with a picture of the stock. It was stretched to a 14 3/4 inch pull by inletting a "widow's peak" into the extension.
The gun is currently in storage; I have some letters with Oscar, relative to the laminated appearance of the lock plates. I should check the locks for the type of rebound.

Best, Austin

[Drew Port]

Thank you i will get more pictures up of the forend. Is there any other pictures that would help? Thanks again

Drew

Originally Posted by Austin W Hogan

The picture of the fore end is not sharp enough to show a small "bow tie" diamond in the center which corresponds to Grade two; but the checking pattern is not the multi diamond pattern on the dam 3. A fore end swap during the last 120 years is not out of the question.
I have a two barrel set about two years older with similar filing and engraving. It has two matched weight barrels; one a twist and one damascus.
There was condiderable flux in engraving and decoration prior to about s/n 22000. Two things seem to be consistent and definitive; the two grade had three distinct diamonds in the fore end checking pattern; the higher grades had a different pin layout for the rebounding hammer.
My bet would be that this is one of the few dam 1 guns that we occassionally find.

Best, Austin