Miller Triggers

[Harry Collins]

Here are a few photo's of Uncle Bill's VH 16's Miller Trigger:

[Bill Murphy]

I won't say any more about the pre Howland single triggers in Ithaca guns until Dave Noreen checks in.

[Dan May]

Thank you all for the kind words of encouragement. Ken and I are very excited to be able to carry on Elmer and Howard Miller's legacy. We are going to try to make them proud! Doug Turnbull deserves our thanks as well for his work with the Miller system, he put a lot of effort into modernizing it and making it even better.

As for the selector question, there were only two systems. The original patents located the selector on the tang safety and the 1962 patent established the rocker type selector mounted on the front of the trigger body. The Miller's definitely felt this was an improvement as it was a sturdier, simpler system and was less apt to give trouble. Many feel that it is less convenient for fast selection in the field and it is surely an arguable point. At this time, we are only going to be installing selective systems based on the 1962 patent. If there is enough interest, we may consider reverse engineering the earlier style for production in the future.

I really enjoyed the conversation at Hausmann's this past weekend. I'm glad that I had the opportunity to meet many of the members here and look forward to seeing you all again soon.

Best regards,

Dan

[Dean Romig]

I must say that I am quite surprised to learn the "rocker" style in front of the trigger is of a 1962 patent. I had a 1929 CHE double trap with this style and there was no evidence of the earlier style having ever been incorporated on the gun... or any other manufacture of single trigger for that matter.

[Dan May]

Dean,

Here is a link to the patent. http://www.google.com/patents/about?...r+trigger+1962

Elmer patented a similar mechanism in 1939, this may be what you had. This rocker switch did not have a spring loaded detent like the 62 patent and generally had a round profile.
I'd have to see it to know for sure.

http://www.google.com/patents/about?...r+trigger+1939

Best, Dan

[Rod N. Gunn]

From a closet single trigger fan, good luck with the Miller project!

[Dean Romig]

Any thoughts on which single trigger would have originally been installed in 1939 by Parker Bros.? The Miller single trigger it now has is the 1962 patent.

[Autumn Daze]

Dean,That trigger would have been installed by Remington....Right?

[Dan May]

If it were a Parker type single, I would assume it would be the second generation, hopefully someone with more info will jump in. It can be hard to tell what was there after the Miller conversion is done, unless you look inside for evidence.

Best, Dan

[Dean Romig]

I honestly don't recall that the gun had any Remington codes.