Ithaca 4E 16

[Big D]

Mark's rule is similar to the one in our house. If I express an opinion, and my wife is not there to hear it, am I still wrong?

[Harold Pickens]

NOT, my gun yet, and owner did not want me to post photos. He has offered it to me at a very fair price, I was just inquiring about 4E 16 Ithacas, I have never seen one before, and my knowledge is limited to say the least. I was hoping to be enlightened to help make the decision. Heck, if it becomes mine, I guarantee you will see pictures ad nauseum--I will even let you shoot it!
To make things even more interesting, I was offered a "bundle" deal which includes a kind

of unique little Lefever 20. So anybody fluent in Ithaca?

[Harold Pickens]

I have just broke into my piggybank and am counting pennies

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens

I have just broke into my piggybank and am counting pennies

Oh stop it

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Harold,

Since you have to count pennies to buy the pair go ahead and keep the nice Ithaca and sell the Lefever to me...

Mark

[Allen Peterson]

Here is a 12 ga I have is the engraving this era?

Mine is a 32inch bbl English stock. it could use a 16 ga little brother.

[Harold Pickens]

The 16 is probably a later gun, ser#4488xx (1927), and does not have cocking indicators. It has a pistol grip and splinter fore arm. Very nice gun you have, if I don't take it, I can put you in touch with seller

[bill grill]

Cocking indicators came about around 1928 and were gone by 1932 if memory serves me correctly. Serial no. 400,000 and above are NID guns and engraving would be very similar like the one pictured.

[Harold Pickens]

Dave, beautiful!! Well, the 4E 16 is now mine, but the owner is out of town this weekend. I promise plenty of pics.

[Researcher]

In addition to what I stated above, I've seen a number of higher grade NIDs without the indicators in lower serial number ranges, which were likely special ordered without. In his original review of the NID, Capt. Chas. Askins said "it smacked of the Heinie gun" which probably didn't endear it to veterans of The Great War!! However, there were indicators on the good Captains Magnum-Ten No. 4E+. I've never seen a good enough picture of his fully loaded No. 5E 16-gauge to tell if it has indicators or not.