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there is a lot of engineering in getting any mechanical trigger to work correctly.
under the tutelage of a master, I made a double set trigger from scratch for a longrifle. Trigger plate, triggers, levers, springs, everything from raw stock except for a couple of screws. he said it would take him a couple days, it took me over a week. But I learned a lot. one thing I learned was to buy the next one ![]()
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Edgar - excellent and interesting post! I have a couple of questions: you mention in a number of places your noting that certain markings are consistent with Meriden manufacture - did you suspect that some of the modifications had been done by Remington (or in Ilion)? Also, who or what is 'Stosh'?
The Fulford setup if I remember correctly is pictured in other make guns in period literature much the same as the ad you posted, probably in American Field or The National Sportsman, over the years. |
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Kevin, Much of what I've said is speculation. Thanks to Steve, I have been able to learn a bit more about the Fulford trigger. The gun is an oldie, 1906, and Elijah Fulford died in 1904. If his trigger manufacture carried on after his death, I can't say, but this trigger has a SN in the low two hundreds.
While I am pretty sure the gun didn't go back to Remington 30 years after it was made in Meriden based on Fulford, I am more certain of this because, A, there are no marks consistent with repairs or work done by Remington, and, B, the barrels are marked Titanic Steel. Additionally, If Dave Suponski (aka Stosh) is correct about the significance of the letter R in the lower tang groove, and the stock is a factory replacement, I would have to say it is a Meriden stockmaker who shaped it. Remington combs are shaped so differently that I am pretty certain of this. There's no Order book info available, But I'll get a letter and see if the stock book info sheds more light on this. |
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Thanks much, Edgar - yes, I have seen several examples of replacement stocks with the 'R' stamp in the TG channel inletting. Also agree that the stock geometry is a very good indicator of where the work was done (e.g., Meriden or Ilion). The Meriden stocks have thinner, more gracefully curved wrists along with more finely fluted noses at the point of the comb; Ilion wood always seems much fuller in the wrist with minimal shaping of the flutes at the nose of the comb, along with the noticeably wider splinter forend contour, where the width is carried further forward into the forend tip in contrast to the much slimmer, more tapered Meriden wood.
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This is one of the subtle differences that make me love Meriden guns so much more. My father called Remington fore ends 'Bull Nosed' (a commonly used technical term, not a derogatory statement).
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The gun came to me with a shattered right hammer, so since it had to come fully apart, I took the opportunity to use my finely developed artistic skills in an attempt to duplicate the turn-of-the-century ad shown in post #6.
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I'm impressed! If things don't work out in the syrup business you might have a future in advertising. Nice job and very interesting post.
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I wish I could use my finely developed, artistic vocabulary here.
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