Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Engraving & Engravers

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 03-11-2021, 06:07 PM   #11
Member
Parker-Hawes
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 118
Thanks: 1,683
Thanked 68 Times in 33 Posts

Default

I am not sure but I saw it here. I think it had to be 15 plus years ago. I found it quite funny and it really seemed to fit the ducks on my 12 GHE ! It sounded like a term Ed Muderlak might have coined though I cannot be sure if that is a certainty. Best, Paul
PS I do still like all of the Parker ducks.
Paul D Narlesky is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-11-2021, 06:33 PM   #12
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,028
Thanks: 36,683
Thanked 34,131 Times in 12,627 Posts

Default

You're right Paul - it was most definitely ol' EDM hisself.

In fact, I think he made that reference in his book "Parker Guns, The Old Reliable"




.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 03-14-2021, 12:40 PM   #13
Member
mobirdhunter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Garry L Gordon's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,076
Thanks: 14,220
Thanked 10,613 Times in 3,358 Posts

Default

Let's not forget the "three dog" DHs. I'm partial to them. They seem to appear on very early hammerless D grade guns. This is from a 1 frame, 32 inch DH made in 1889. Of course, it's a Gordon Setter.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_7035.jpg (493.6 KB, 7 views)
__________________
"Doubtless the good Lord could have made a better game bird than bobwhite, and better country to hunt him in...but equally doubtless, he never did." -- Guy de la Valdene (from A Handful of Feathers )

"'I promise you,' he said, 'on my word of honor, I won't die on the opening of the bird season.'" -- Robert Ruark (from The Old Man and the Boy)
Garry L Gordon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Garry L Gordon For Your Post:
Unread 01-07-2022, 07:59 PM   #14
Member
Jim Kremmel
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 153
Thanks: 171
Thanked 256 Times in 66 Posts

Default

Are these the “flying turnips”, or in this case “standing turnips”? Thoughts on what game birds they were meant to be?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 82679DCD-23B5-49AA-BB76-DBD8FF91AE91.jpg (519.4 KB, 8 views)
Jim Kremmel is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jim Kremmel For Your Post:
Unread 01-07-2022, 09:28 PM   #15
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,028
Thanks: 36,683
Thanked 34,131 Times in 12,627 Posts

Default

They look like walking clamshells.
Probably meant to be quail of some sort.

The term coined by the late Ed Muderlak, flying turnips, was made in reference to the exceptionally plump ducks in flight.






.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-07-2022, 10:20 PM   #16
Member
stumpstalker
PGCA Member
 
Russell E. Cleary's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 958
Thanks: 11,281
Thanked 2,451 Times in 698 Posts

Default

Dean:

I know we can’t interview these engravers. But what do you think was the thought-process behind these blueprinted “game-bird” designs?

Deliberate offbeat stylization; an artist’s quip; comic relief within the confines of a strict framework of manufacturing consistency and quality control?
__________________
"First off I scoured the Internet and this seems to be the place to be!” — Chad Whittenburg, 5-12-19
Russell E. Cleary is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-07-2022, 10:30 PM   #17
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,028
Thanks: 36,683
Thanked 34,131 Times in 12,627 Posts

Default

The sometimes odd-looking birds we see are primarily on Grade 2 guns and where the engraving needed to be very simple and this work on these lower grades were necessarily done byvapprentices and journeymen in the field. No artistic impression was required or even necessary to a large degree.
Grade 3 Parkers are where we begin to see some very nice artistic expression which was necessary to depict more realistic dogs requiring the hand of more experienced engravers.






.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 01-08-2022, 12:18 AM   #18
Member
J. A. EARLY
PGCA Member
 
Jerry Harlow's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,018
Thanks: 4,210
Thanked 2,820 Times in 913 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Kremmel View Post
Are these the “flying turnips”, or in this case “standing turnips”? Thoughts on what game birds they were meant to be?
Guineafowl. Shoot them in your back yard when you get tired of their noise. As close as one can get. Someone had a photo of the wrong bird in front of them when they started engraving and like "lemmings off a cliff "everyone followed along. Maybe the first engraver of these looked out the window at a flock of them and thought good enough. Take a look! We call them Gennies here in the South.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Guineafowl.jpg (8.6 KB, 223 views)
Jerry Harlow is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Jerry Harlow For Your Post:
Unread 01-08-2022, 07:59 AM   #19
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,028
Thanks: 36,683
Thanked 34,131 Times in 12,627 Posts

Default

Were guinea fowl ever a wild bird in this country?





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-08-2022, 08:46 AM   #20
Member
Heff
PGCA Member
 
Chad Hefflinger's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 299
Thanks: 604
Thanked 580 Times in 123 Posts

Default

Heath hens possibly?
__________________
"There are two kinds of hunting: ordinary hunting, and ruffed grouse hunting"-Aldo Leopold
Chad Hefflinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:55 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.