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Unread 04-03-2023, 09:09 AM   #11
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Randy… not to be picky but none of those three letters address a trap comb, just a “trap modified fore-end”. Do you have any other info on those guns that talk about the combs?
I have seen letters that specifically reference a “trap comb”.
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Dean the following is my original post in which I stated:
Garry I looked at 3 letters on guns with a trap comb and all 3 mention the grip and the "trap modified forend" but nothing on the actual comb. Dang the luck !
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Oops... I missed that Randy - Sorry





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Thanks for the additional information! I also notice the term "ball grip" from one of those guns. After reading a thread with lots of comments on various grip terminology, I wonder if that terminology changed over time, and the same kind of evolution of terms happened with comb specifications.

I hope more folks with research letter information will contribute to this thread.
Garry, after some research this is what I found on "ball grips"...Couldn't just pass this up. Sent to me by a friend.
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Garry, after some research this is what I found on "ball grips"...Couldn't just pass this up. Sent to me by a friend.
But do you have a research letter??
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No research letter as the dates don't coincide with known serializations. Only more images.
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I have two of what I consider true ‘ball grip’ guns, both Lifters, both D or equivalend ‘dollar quality’ guns, one a 10 gauge and one a 16.





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Apparently the Parker nomenclature changed over time. It makes sense that it would.
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Garry as you do not seem to be getting a lot of hits on this topic have you considered perusing through some Parker catalogs to see if there might be some nomenclature within them specific to comb terminology. I know that some of them mention the Monte Carlo and Cheek Piece options so you never know.
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Garry as you do not seem to be getting a lot of hits on this topic have you considered perusing through some Parker catalogs to see if there might be some nomenclature within them specific to comb terminology. I know that some of them mention the Monte Carlo and Cheek Piece options so you never know.
Thanks, Randy, that’s a great idea. It will give me a good indoor quest on a cold day (like we’re having today).

I can’t believe that the honorable Bill M. doesn’t have a letter or three that would help out. (Bill, where are you?)
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I looked thru my copies of Parker catalogs and prior to the 1910 catalog, Parker only listed straight or pistol grip. The pistol grip would include capped pistol grips, round knob pistol grips, and ball grips. Ball grips were on the early hammer guns and looked like a bulb. Parker did use the term "ball" on their later .410 guns. Starting with the 1910 catalog, they used the terms straight, pistol grip (includes both CPG and round), 1/2 pistol grip, and Monte Carlo.
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