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Unread 07-22-2009, 05:16 PM   #11
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My hammer Manton was 4", my J&WTolley sidelock was 3 1/4", my PH Parker was 3 1/4" and the Lindner Daly hammer I just looked at was 3 1/4" (at 16 1/2 lb with only 36" barrels, a hefty frau...) Destry, you will recall the 40 8 bore brass cases you sold for me were 4 1/4"....
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I'd forgotten that, but yes, I do recall that now. I should have bought them from you myself but I've got all the 8 bore I need and she's only 3 1/4.

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Don, would you consider selling me some of the 4 1/4" Rocky Mountain brass? What was your decision on the Daly? I passed based on only one issue.
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thanks for all the info on the chamber lenghts i would never dreamed of a 4 inch parker .sure wouldnt mind having one though. ha has the fellow with the 4 inch parker ever shot this gun with 4 in load curious about results. i have fired loads up to 3 ounces out of my parker it only has 3 1/4 in chambers. it is a good load and recoil is not bad. good hunting charlie
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Bill- Destry sold all the brass to a fellow in Turnberry, Scotland. (perhaps to keep the geese of the golf course...). I had the Daly 8 for a couple of days and sent it back to Larry. A very, very sound beautifully built 1880s gun but quite low in the stock and heavy in weight for a shooter. The action had obviously been covered in light surface rust during storage for me to live with it would have required too much work. The Westley he has is the baby but alas a new Mercedes wagon for Mrs. K has slowed my acquisitive nature this month but I'll revive...
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Don, did you clean the bores on the Daly? Are the pits really pits. I passed based on the condition of the uncleaned bores. Did you have both guns sent?? The shipping must have been astronomical.
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I only looked at the Daly. Shipping to and fro was $120. Upon arrival I cleaned the Daly bores- they were very good remarkably so actually. One rather small pit in front of the right chamber and some very minor roughness here and there. If the bores were the only reason you passed on the gun you made a big mistake...the $4500 didn't factor into did it? To be happy with this gun, I would had to 1) do a butt transplant to fix the check and raise the comb 2) have the barrels done by Dale E. 3) have the action polished and re-engraved and case hardened and 4) start a weight program so I could lift and move the gun...
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Unread 07-23-2009, 12:02 PM   #18
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4" is long enough for anyone, if you cant stop geese with 7 dram 2 1/4 ounce its time to packup. the other option use a muzzle loader no chambers to bother about. I have been using a single muzzle loading 8 weighing in at 16 pound but found no pattern advantage using anything above 2 ounce. big gun prices are going rather silly over here at the moment the local gun shop has a Greener boxlock none ejector double 8, but he is asking £13,000 for it. Its nice but not that nice.

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Peter-as you know, the problem here in North America is that we can not use our 8 bores on wildfowl (and in many states on no game whatsoever). Other than the odd clandestine poke at a Canada or chamber inserts to 10 bore magnum (show them the 10 bore cartridges and the wardens never know) and the occasional foray in some places for turkey, 8 bores are a guncrank's indulgence here.
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Peter, how much would my eight bore Greener Royal 33" (original) unengraved hammer gun sell for over there? It is high condition, nitro proofed for 3 3/4" cases. Made in 1885 according to GG.
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