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Unread 02-19-2021, 08:10 AM   #11
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I think the incorrect “T Lifter” reference may have started in reference to the “T Latch” action of the pre-Parker Brothers era on the Meriden Manufacturing design.


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I know I was called out in a previous thread where I made reference to “Underlifter” but only because I have seen it in print of the period, not because I invented the term. Granted, Parker Brothers did not use the term in their operation.

Incidentally, I made that reference to the question that had been asked regarding the U preceding the serial number stamped on the action flats “water table” of some early Lifters.
I don’t recall any other suggestions to answer the question of the significance of the U so I just threw out my suggestion of “Underlifter.”



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THANK YOU BRUCE!! I should have quantified my rag with the fact that we here in NOVA are in the middle of an ice storm and that there is talk of postponing (my second) COVID-19 vaccination until next week. Also due to the crappy weather we have not been able to shoot for the last 10 days. I just can't take much more of this!!
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Gun guys should consider themselves lucky in holding the line on nomenclature, compared with what is going on in the marine/boating community. It has become a lost cause, I am afraid, with owners and their crews talking of “driving” their boats; of going “upstairs” or “downstairs”; the “bathroom” down below; the “front” or “back” of the boat; and “parking” them.

“Floors” are now stood on, not decks; or the cockpit or cabin sole.

It may be coming, but at least I haven’t yet heard a commercial or private plane pilot refer to “driving” his plane or an equipment operator speak of “driving” a back-hoe, at least when he is digging, as opposed to going down the highway.

O. K. I feel better now. Back to guns.
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The permutations of the English language are frustrating, especially in the specialty areas like guns and boats that have several hundred years of specialized use. People without an appreciation for the history of language grow more numerous every year. On the other hand, without permutations we would all still be saying "Wan that Abril with his shoures soute..." Oh well. Bolt plate and keels they are.
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I agree Mike but I don't think we should be inventing new words without their being included in a dictionary with their spelling and definition and with an "origin" or at least a reference to the root word before we begin putting them into use.





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Still refer to the floors in my house....too long in the Navy I guess.
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Can the 1910 style "wear plate" be used to replace the earlier 1905 style.
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Yes Bob. Parker Bros replaced earlier versions as a matter of course and a courtesy improvement when a gun went in for other kinds of service and repair and at no charge to the owner.
I have an 1893 GHE that went back to Meriden in 1913 to have ejectors installed and it now has the shouldered plate and bolt with no mention of this service in my letter.





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Can the 1910 style "wear plate" be used to replace the earlier 1905 style.
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Not without also changing out the bolt to correspond with the plate. BUT... I do believe that the 1905 plates are thicker than the 1910 style, so I am not sure if the 1910 plate can be put into the 1905-1910 barrels without them being too low to mate up with the bolt. In this case, a fatter 1910 style plate would have to be used/made.
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