Is this factory?

[Dean Romig]

Here is 235908

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[Dean Romig]

And here is 236199

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[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

The butt plate. Original?? Your guess is as good as mine... But my guess is that it is original..

The widows peak is not unique to Parker. I wish I hadn’t sold it (hell, I wish I still had every gun I’ve ever owned) but I had. Simpson 8x57JR double rifle that had a widows peak and checkered butt plate. It looked like horn but was probably gutte percha.

[Dean Romig]

236199 was the 40th Parker of 1933(?) Remington having purchased the Parker Gun Works in 1934, but the absence of any identifying manufacturer name anywhere on the frame would seem to indicate the gun was finished and shipped sometime after Remington ownership. The barrel rib has the correct legend identifying it as "Parker Bros. Maker, Meriden, Ct. Parker Spec. Steel" and I will always wonder about the butt plate as being original (Remington not having bought the "Parker Brothers" name which was on all Parker hard rubber butt plates up to that point.) or a replacement.

Has anyone ever seen a butt plate like this one on an early Remington Parker ?






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[edgarspencer]

Perhaps it was all they could come up with prior to mold making and production of the “Parker No Bros” plate. I’ve never seen another.

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

I wish I hadn’t sold it (hell, I wish I still had every gun I’ve ever owned)

I still submit that regret is one of the strongest emotions. Edgar's statement might appear on a headstone or two (probably mine, at least).

Sorry to get us off the trail.

[Dean Romig]

I have seen one other just like this but I can't remember where or when.....





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[Parker-Hawes]

Pics of engraving Parker 236,200 GHE 16

[Ralph English]

Several years ago I started keeping records of all "Transition" Parkers (Parkers with NO Parker or Parker Brothers engraved on the guns frame) that I came across.

I added two new Parkers to that list because of this "thread" (sn 236200 & sn 235908).

The list now numbers 35.

The earliest serial number on that list is sn 234987. This gun is a Trojan 12 ga.
Sn 234987 is an abnormally in that the next lowest serial number is sn 235908 the GHE ? ga, that Dean posted on this thread . The last serial number that I have found is sn 236563.

The list of 35 includes only two Trogans. It then runs through V, G, D and C grades. The lone C grade is a CHE 12 ga two barrel set with 2 beavertails, SST
and English grip.

The gages include 12, 16, 20, 28 and 410.

There are 8 ,410 ga on the list.

[Dean Romig]

Ralph - David Trevallion recently (2 years ago) sold his personal 20 gauge Trojan which had no Parker Bros. or Parker anywhere on the frame. I don't know what the serial number was however.

235908 by the way, is a GH - no E.





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