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Unread 08-09-2015, 05:22 PM   #11
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Jay, do you have any of the fired shells to examine to see if the firing pin was dragging on the primer? It would be quite evident.
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It will not open enough . decided against pouring oil in it.a really appreciate all the help from you guys guess I'll be making a trip to the gunsmith.
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Unfortunately I didn't look at or save any of the emptys
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By the way ch.thats a beutiful pointer ! On your member page. I'm a big fan of elhews.
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I would worry about soaking the wood with all that oil?
Robin, I'm assuming that the oil would stay in the chamber and if the method was ineffective, just pour it back out the muzzle. If it does work and push the primer back a bit then open the action over a container to catch any oil and rinse any mess away with some light solvent.

Note, I didn't say it was necessarily a good idea!
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My guess as to the cause, and opening has been covered. I believe it was Mike who suggested a hung up hammer** in a soft primer. It was also suggested that you bump the bottom of the receiver across your knee, and that's just what I did. It was a repetitive problem with a particular brand cartridge. Since I happen to like that cartridge, I took the hammers out and dressed the firing pin to a more rounded profile, and have never had the issue since.
** for those not aware, the hammer and firing pin are one.
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Once you get it open after firing, check the primer. If there is drag marks on it then you can do one of two things... try an different ammunition/primer and see if the problem solves itself OR you re-dress the tip of the hammer as Edgar suggested. I have had this issue happen with a flattened hammer tip personally. But primers can be soft and cause issues as well.

If there is not drag marks on the primers, then you have another issue.
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Jay he does have some elhew good eye. My friend has his sister from another litter she is getting older got some years left but he needs a young dog. He is looking for a black and white female when she gets few years old I'll breed Sam to her and have all the dogs a guy could need. With Gods help of course. Sam ran down a Jack rabbit the other day while I was greasing undercutter. That is not an easy task. Stamina hes got. OK I will shut up but kids and dogs... ch Geeze I was flappin my fingers and forgot to say. Thanks Jay
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Hi jay,

My Trojan does the same thing from time to time. The solution I use is to smack the bottom of the receiver with the heal of my left hand while holding the lever over to the right with my right thumb. One or two good bumps usually does it.

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A discovery I made a few days ago - that I thought was a firing pin dragging or hanging up in a soft primer - turned out to be the brass shell head expanded just enough on the right barrel only that it was very hard to open the gun. It is an extractor gun. I think an ejector gun wouldn't have this problem...?

I dressed and polished the firing pin tip and that made no difference at all. Now I'm gently honing the right chamber and each time I recheck it there is a bit of improvement. Shouldn't be long now.
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