Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Announcement, Help & Introduction Forums Website & Forum - Help & Assistance

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 07-02-2018, 09:25 PM   #11
Member
LGoodman16875
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default

I need to find a way to see what it's worth. Any ideas because where I have been looking requires the Grade Stamp?
Leo Goodman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-02-2018, 09:37 PM   #12
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,720
Thanked 34,159 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Dudley View Post
At that time period, the lack of grade stamps is not uncommon. But, at that time, the grades were clearly defined, for the most part. The D indicates damascus barrels, which makes it at least a grade 2 gun.

Not necessarily Brian... and I'm looking at one Damascus tube and one Twist tube. That being the case, I think it would be a stretch to call it a grade 2.... I'd give it a grade 1. A grade 2 of that era should have ducks or prarie chickens engraved on the lock plates and a single bird in a round vignette on the bottom of the frame.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-02-2018, 09:42 PM   #13
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,720
Thanked 34,159 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

Mr. Goodman - we need to see a clear picture of the checkering pattern of the forend please. Even very early on with four-digit serial numbers the forend checkering patterns differ significantly between grades (or dollar quality) 1, 2, and 3 Parkers.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-03-2018, 10:11 AM   #14
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,771
Thanks: 502
Thanked 18,594 Times in 4,766 Posts

Default

The amount of engraving and the breech ball shaping are right in line with a grade 2.

Lifters of that period did not start sculpting the breech balls until grade 2 guns.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Pictures of Checkering
Unread 07-03-2018, 02:41 PM   #15
Member
LGoodman16875
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default Pictures of Checkering

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Romig View Post
Mr. Goodman - we need to see a clear picture of the checkering pattern of the forend please. Even very early on with four-digit serial numbers the forend checkering patterns differ significantly between grades (or dollar quality) 1, 2, and 3 Parkers.





.
Pictures of Checkering
Attached Images
File Type: jpg checkering 3.jpg (494.5 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg checkering 2.jpg (538.1 KB, 0 views)
Leo Goodman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-03-2018, 02:49 PM   #16
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,720
Thanked 34,159 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

No Leo - on the forend please. Although it may be worn even more than the grip and may be almost non-discernable now
The LPI of the grip area looks too coarse for a grade 2.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-03-2018, 03:25 PM   #17
Member
LGoodman16875
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo Goodman View Post
Pictures of Checkering
Forend Checkering
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_20180703_135533.jpg (488.4 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_20180703_135526.jpg (494.0 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_20180703_135523.jpg (494.3 KB, 0 views)
Leo Goodman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Leo Goodman For Your Post:
Unread 07-03-2018, 04:12 PM   #18
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,720
Thanked 34,159 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

The free space around the forend latch would seem to indicate Grade 2 checkering... but the coarse LPI seems to indicate otherwise. It looks to be about 14 LPI.

These early Parkers certainly are puzzling...





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-03-2018, 05:47 PM   #19
Member
LGoodman16875
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default

Thank you very much, this somewhat steers me in the right direction. On to seek the value ��
Leo Goodman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-03-2018, 05:48 PM   #20
Member
LGoodman16875
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default

Thank you all, going to the next step, then it needs a new home.

Last edited by Leo Goodman; 07-03-2018 at 06:04 PM..
Leo Goodman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:50 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.