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Unread 07-14-2023, 09:20 PM   #11
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Steve, I think the OP was asking if Parker used month and year as part of the serial number such as 0723xxx, the 07 month and 23 as the year.
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True Chuck, and if it was a Parker made under Remington ownership it would be stamped with the month and year of manufacture… but it’s not.





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Unread 07-15-2023, 10:04 AM   #13
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I would like to thank the members with their Help! This is what I know for what it’s worth:
Grandfather’s 14th Birthday gift October 1908
All Serial numbers are known for 1908 - 2975 total
648 16 gauge guns were manufactured
Only look up Gun info by Serial #
There is no correlation between the serial # and when it was made (day or month)in that year

The loaded question is, will the Order Books that cover 1908 show my Great Grandfather’s name and address ordering the gun? The pictures I have seen of Order books give a lot of info. Given that, can I request a research letter and is someone willing to accept the challenge to go through the books, or is there public access if I want to?
Thanks in advance!!
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If your ancestor ordered the gun by mail or through one of Parkers salesman, (not through a store) it's possible that he would be listed in the alphabetical index in the order book. It's the only thing I can look for to help you without a S/N. The chance is 1 in a million.

What's your ancestors name that ordered the gun?
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First, Thank you giving it a try. And I understand we are truly looking for a needle in a Haystack.
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Charles Lunsford
Petersburg Virginia
27 N Union Street or 1 Old Street
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No luck. I searched the indexes from Jan 1907 to May 1910. Like I said more than likely the gun was purchased from a retail store such as a hardware or sporting goods store. Without a S/N, I can't be of help. Sorry.
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Chuck, we are so fortunate to have a research chairman such as you. This thread is evidence of how diligent and willing to help you are. Thank you!

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So, was the gun ordered for Charles Lunsford or by Charles Lunsford?

The only name that might have been recorded is who the gun was ordered BY.






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Mr Bishop I can’t thank you enough for looking fo me and Dean Charles Sr was ordering for Charles Jr. Charles Sr did own a Feed and Grain company under his name and I was hoping it might show up there.
When I was going through the 1908 serial #’s, there many groups of 3 to 10+ with consecutive #’s which led me to believe those were ordered by a Retailer.
That leads me to ask, how would one pursue that approach?
I can now see why everyone that owns a Parker is very loyal!!
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You gave our research chairman the name of the person. He did not find your gun. Now give him the name of the feed store in Petersburg, your last hope. V grade guns, like yours probably, are almost never ordered by individuals. Sorry, that is the end of the story, unless you find the gun. By the way, there is no way to pin down the date of a gun's manufacture by serial number, only an estimate. What is your source of information about that?
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