Shipping guns parts and ammunition within USA

[Labowner]

USPS has a new standing policy to deny any non FFL holders shipping, I hold my ground and tell them they are following the rules from 1968 gun act and eventually they get it.

[Bill Murphy]

Ruff Hunter is confusing a UPS contractor with a UPS "office". No one sells a UPS office. You will get different service from real a UPS office. Also, is Labowner saying that the PO will no longer allow non FFL holders to ship, receive, or both? I have a hard time swallowing that one. A non FFL has never been allowed to ship to another non FFL. No change there. By the way Ruff, i don't remember any $100 Registered Mail fees, insurance maybe, but we buy insurance at all levels of service. What's the real story? I've used Registered a lot, and like it.

[Mills]

Well, I tried another post office, and sent my gun out with no problems. Our problems came from low level employees making their own rules and I suspect that is true with some of the other people on this thread. Now . . . fingers crossed that it arrives safely

[Blind Dog]

Some years ago I tried to send one for repair through our closest UPS agency store. They wouldn't do it except from an FFL holder after clearance from the main office. I went to the other agency in town and declared it and insured it as an "antique Parker" and it went through with no problem.

[Mills]

When dealing with bureaucrats, act stupid and be persistent but generally polite. If anyone works for the government out there, I also did in my early career and know this from the inside

[Bill Murphy]

Just plain don't deal with a UPS agency store. They may not be there when you make an insurance claim.

[Opening Day]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Just plain don't deal with a UPS agency store. They may not be there when you make an insurance claim.

Bill I am sure you know this but for people that don't know, you can not send a gun from a UPS store front only UPS depot, the store front will take your money for insurance but if the gun is lost or stolen you can not collect since the store fronts are not suppose to ship guns. Happened to a couple of guys over on double gunshop. So if you ship and insure thru UPS make sure you ship through a UPS depot.

[Blind Dog]

Guess I lucked out.

[tom tutwiler]

I ship a fair amount of guns (shipped one yesterday). I'm not an FFL dealer, but I get the receiving dealers FFL and include a copy of that with the gun. I normally ship Registered USPS, but I have been known to ship insured USPS. The hassle with Registered is the package has to wrapped in brown paper and all corners taped with brown paper tape that USPS doesn't even sell in their stores. Thus you have to go to Staples or wherever to get it. The advantage of Registered Mail is it won't be lost as is has to be signed for every step of the way. I know that because I'm a retired Fed and we used to ship high value items via registered mail because there was a tracking system in place.

The negative thing with the USPS is many of the people in my area don't know the rules about shipping guns and they tend to get all stupid and pulling rules out of their tail when I show up. Because of that, I don't tell them its a gun. Last time I shipped a gun and they asked I told them it was circassian walnut and machined parts (sort of true).

PS. I do a lot of business with my local gun dealer. I always goes to the same post office he uses (if I'm going to see him) and the lady at the PO knows him. When I get there to ship a gun I just tell them I've got something from John (the dealers name) that I'm shipping for him. She's known John for 20 years and therefore she knows its a gun and she knows it legal, etc. etc..

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

I had to explain in a firm but polite way the US Postal regulations about shipping guns and antiques (1898 and older firearms) to the clerks at my local post office. I also quoted the National Firearms Act to explain what an antique was.

A clerk had ask for a copy of my C&R licence. I asked her, "What will you do with it?" She didn't have a good answer. I told her that Postal Regulations only require me to declare that the package contains a firearm. That was that. If it had not been enough I would have demanded to speak to the postmaster.

If one doesn't humiliate a Postal clerk they may appreciate the education.

PS: Leighton taught me that Priority Mail shipped on a Monday is a safe way to ship. It was good advice.