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Unread 03-16-2020, 08:00 PM   #11
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You coming South to shoot clays at Drakes with us at the end of April.
Yep, if Drake is open I'll be there. As a sidebar; if anyone else would like to make a long weekend of it shooting at Drake and other venues don't let this stupid virus crap stop you.
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Daryl, you maintained good composure there.
I went to a gun show this weekend, where a dealer had a Remington hammer 12 for sale with a big sign that said "this is not Damascus". Well, it sure as hell had a nice Damascus pattern, not a bad gun. When I told him it was Damascus he became quite incensed and told me to look down the bores and I wouldn't see any Damascus pattern there. I laughed at him when he told me that the Damascus pattern was only on the outside. I had to walk away.
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I too would like to see pictures of the 20 ga. Parker SBT.
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Hey Bill, great thread! Sounds like you & Kev had a hoot with your 20s. Maybe one day we can get together & I can bring my rare & unusual AH Fox 20ga Trap Grade SxS. (we think there were 3 made) It's a 28" gun. Or perhaps I'd use my 20ga HE 32" or my Fox Sterlingworth Skeet & Upland Game 20ga which is choked Full & Fuller... 26" gun. That gun never left the Utica area and was purportedly owned by a member of the Savage/Fox Trap team (Dad & I bought it from the 2nd owner about 40 yrs ago) ... never found any press on a Savage/Fox Trap Team though I have found articles on other factory teams in that era. Interestingly, I have never fired a round out of any of the 3 guns.
Disappointed like heck we all wont be in B'more this weekend, I had that big beautiful 32" Colt to show you.
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Daryl, that guy needs to read my tag line !

A guy in a well respected gun shop told me that Parkers are made in England and when I asked him if he knew if the 27-1/2" barrel had been cut he said, "Well, they use millimeters over there, so it's hard to tell."
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A good salesman just has to make up a good story! Buyer beware.
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I too would like to see pictures of the 20 ga. Parker SBT.
John, don't know know by now that Bill does not post pictures of his guns?
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A good salesman just has to make up a good story! Buyer beware.
I hear you Jeff; sadly, that's a lot of people's perception of a salesman. But as a guy who has spent many years in sales, I'd have to disagree. A BAD salesman is the one who has to make up stories or try to BS his way through questions he doesn't know the answer to. Good salesmen understand that they'll make a lot more sales telling the truth, and there's not a thing in the world wrong with saying, "I don't know, but I'll find out."

I always operate under the premise that my job is to find out if the buyer has a need (or a want!), and then my attitude is, "If my offering fits that need (or want), then let's see if we can come to terms."

Unfortunately, the guy in the shop was neither a good salesman nor a knowledgeable one. Sorry for the mini-rant here, but I've spent a lot of years trying to overcome the stereotype of "a salesman" !
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Don't get me wrong, I think a 20 gauge SBT is really cool and very rare, but I have to wonder why they ever made one to begin with.
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Don't get me wrong, I think a 20 gauge SBT is really cool and very rare, but I have to wonder why they ever made one to begin with.
They made one because someone ordered it that way. If you or I were around back then John we would have been able to do just that; order what we want.
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