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Unread 10-29-2021, 10:33 AM   #11
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So, Dean, here's shots of my GHE12 and DH12. What grade are these?
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D4 Richard, or 4-iron crolle.

It's easier to see on the right barrel - there are three full crolles between the light weld lines but there is a half crolle up against each weld line that combined account for another full crolle, equalling 4.





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On both guns?
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Dean, what does "crolle" mean? Possibly french for ?
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Crolle - Crull - Crullen - Curlen are Middle English words that appear in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales written c. 1386 -
“And his lokkes buth noght so crolle…” and a young Squier with locks as “crulle as they were laid in presse.”

In Danish, krolle; Swedish, krulla; French, s'enrouler; German, rolle
“To form into coils or ringlets. Twist.”

“Crolle” was used in reference to damascus barrels in Liege and England by at least the 1880s.

Reading crolle patterns
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Ns5L2XVfc/edit

Richard's GHE is D3 - the 'scrolls' are larger and there are 2 'zipper' welds down the middle of the scrolls in between 2 straight ribband edge welds.

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What is this gun's gunbroker item number?
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Bill I saw it on GI although it may be on GB as well.

Guns International #: 101767701
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It is listed on Guns International.
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I can think of 4 businesses that may have had access to a Titanic roll stamp. The alterations I believe were carried out before Peter Johnson's book. How many laymen would have known that gun was a fake before 1960?
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One would not need to read Johnson's book to recognize that rendering of "Titanic" as an alteration of the factory marking. There was a great wealth of Parker knowledge in the years before Johnson's book was published.
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