Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Paper, Memorabilia and Books

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 02-12-2020, 01:34 PM   #11
Member
CSL
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Christopher Lien's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 351
Thanks: 503
Thanked 381 Times in 122 Posts

Default

The Elliott Bros are on top... The man at far right has an older face but a similar cleft chin as the man below him. Thought perhaps one these men might be a younger Elliott brother... I have more scans, and I'll try and get them on later today.

Best, Chris
___________________________________
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ElliottBros3.jpg (89.7 KB, 164 views)
Christopher Lien is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2020, 01:46 PM   #12
Member
Drew Hause
Forum Associate
 
Drew Hause's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,177
Thanks: 341
Thanked 3,997 Times in 1,308 Posts

Default

J.A.R. about 1895

Drew Hause is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Drew Hause For Your Post:
Visit Drew Hause's homepage!
Unread 02-12-2020, 05:36 PM   #13
Member
Trap3
PGCA Member
 
Randy Davis's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 428
Thanks: 940
Thanked 1,148 Times in 277 Posts

Default

Chris, I believe you may have solved most of the puzzle. I`m guessing photo was taken 1889-early 1990`s. Does look a lot like the Elliott`s.
JAR came to Kansas City around 1886. Opened a shooting Park in 1887. Bob and Dave came to KC a couple years later. Also the Elliott`s were market hunters of prairie chickens around Pleasanton Kansas. If I remember Bob (Robert S.) was the eldest, born in 1858. I know Bob and Dave were shooters but were devoted to operation of the shooting park...


Best regards,
Randy Davis
Randy Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Randy Davis For Your Post:
Unread 02-14-2020, 02:24 PM   #14
Member
CSL
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Christopher Lien's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 351
Thanks: 503
Thanked 381 Times in 122 Posts

Default

Randy, Thanks for the insight. It seems there are not many early (1890's) reference images of the Elliott brothers as younger men. This old cabinet photo is very unusual, as most cabinet images of that time period were around the 6-1/2" X 4-1/4" range, but this one with the Shooters is much larger at a full 8"x10" with the studio mark at bottom. Photographer was "Bauer" of Leavenworth, and he was nationally recognized for his talents receiving awards for his work when exhibited in eastern competitions. Bauer also had a studio partnership in KC Mo as well. Hoping continued research on the trophy inscription will help tell the Shooters story and accurately date the photo.

Best, Chris
__________________________
Attached Images
File Type: jpg KansasFx.jpg (113.6 KB, 118 views)
File Type: jpg KansasPk.jpg (124.6 KB, 8 views)
Christopher Lien is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Christopher Lien For Your Post:
Unread 02-14-2020, 03:06 PM   #15
Member
Trap3
PGCA Member
 
Randy Davis's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 428
Thanks: 940
Thanked 1,148 Times in 277 Posts

Default

Chris... that`s a Great find! Hopefully we can figure out what championship shoot the trophy and photo
was for... Sporting some Parkers too.
Years ago I was given the original framed photo of JAR that once hung over the mantle at Elliott`s Blue River shooting park... Will let you know if I come across any info.

Best regards,
Randy Davis
Randy Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Randy Davis For Your Post:
Unread 02-14-2020, 03:47 PM   #16
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,720
Thanked 34,161 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

I messed around with the picture of the trophy a bit and I'm pretty sure I am reading

something like "--------ship of the state of KANSAS"





.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg KansasTrophyB.jpg (180.3 KB, 115 views)
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-14-2020, 04:14 PM   #17
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,349
Thanks: 3,167
Thanked 12,310 Times in 3,287 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Romig View Post
I messed around with the picture of the trophy a bit and I'm pretty sure I am reading

something like "--------ship of the state of KANSAS".
Given the limited amount of Kansas coastline, I'll wager "-------ship' means Championship.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Unread 02-14-2020, 05:34 PM   #18
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,720
Thanked 34,161 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

Of course it is Edgar.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-17-2020, 12:01 AM   #19
Member
CSL
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Christopher Lien's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 351
Thanks: 503
Thanked 381 Times in 122 Posts

Default

Randy, Regarding the script, if you look closely, you may be able to see the words You and I were recently discussing in the image below.

What I see starting from the top is:


__________ XXXXTING & FXXHING"
_________ XXXXXXchampionship
_________________ TROPHY
______________ XXXXX of the
__________ XXXXXXXship of the state?
_________________ KANSAS



Best, Chris
____________________________________
Attached Images
File Type: jpg KansasRevNeg.jpg (195.6 KB, 3 views)
Christopher Lien is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Christopher Lien For Your Post:
Unread 02-17-2020, 09:28 AM   #20
Member
Trap3
PGCA Member
 
Randy Davis's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 428
Thanks: 940
Thanked 1,148 Times in 277 Posts

Default

Chris... I`m certain it`s from the "Shooting and Fishing" Journal publishing company that
sponsored some State shoots in the 1890`s... awarded for the Kansas State Team event...
4th line probably the gun club that held the shoot.
Just not sure who the shooters are that won the prized trophy...


regards,
RD
Randy Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Randy Davis For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.