NO LEAD, NO POWDER AVAILABLE

[Kensal Rise]

Originally Posted by Paul Stafford

Ok so why is there two different stories here? From the same vendor?

Ironically my club does order from this company and powder seems scarce....

The information I posted came directly from the owner's mouth at 10:45 am today. I saw him personally at 11:30 when I bought 16 lbs. of Promo.

If anyone doubts the situation, you are welcome to phone Dawson's yourself at 330-833-0014

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Mark Ouellette

All is well in shotgun land...

Mark

Mark if all was truly well in shotgun reloading land any of us should be able to go our local gun shop or any of the various on-line retailers and buy one or more of popular shotgun target powders; Red Dot, 700-X, Clays, Promo etc. I don't see that is the case. If you found some powder somewhere that's great but right now that seems to be quite an exception to the current situation. I am simply reporting my observations of surfing various retailer websites and reporting the powder situation has worsened.

[Richard Flanders]

There's not an ounce of powder in either of the Alaska Sportsmans Warehouses I was in this past week. Nada. There wasn't a single primer other than a stack of Rio 209's when I walked into the Anchorage store but as I walked around a guy came out with a cart full of cases to stock the shelves and I grabbed a 1000 federal 210's for my .30-06. Shot is $53/25# bag.

[Paul Stafford III]

Originally Posted by John Campbell

The information I posted came directly from the owner's mouth at 10:45 am today. I saw him personally at 11:30 when I bought 16 lbs. of Promo.

If anyone doubts the situation, you are welcome to phone Dawson's yourself at 330-833-0014

I understand Kensal, I belong to one of the larger clubs in Michigan and we have a hard time getting product from the same supplier. Thanks for the clarification.

[gman]

Is there an equivalent substitute for Sr7625?
Also: anyone have a 2 1/2" 16 gauge low pressure load for longshot? I have a lot of long shot.
Thanks

[J.B. Books]

Another observation, many sources have told us the shortages are the result of hoarders and opportunists look to make a buck by gouging. Last year Gunbroker had lots of auctions along these lines, I remember seeing 16lbs of 700-x for $450 plus shipping. Looking today there is hardly an auction for any of the popular target powders, leads me to believe the opportunists are having trouble finding product to sell.

[Big D]

Who makes the powders which go in commercial (ie Remington, Federal, Winchester) shells? Given that the ammo makers are all going all out to produce what they can (don't forget about Homeland Security's purchase of millions (billions?) of rounds). Is it possible that there is not enough powder-making capacity at this time?

[C.O.B.]

I believe they get it from the same places we do. Perhaps a different mixture but I'll be it's supplied by Hodgen, Alliant ect. I know from talking to RST I'm using the same powder in my 16's that they do. Some of the more popular rifle powders 4350 and H380 were bulk military surplus powder.

[Kensal Rise]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

Another observation, many sources have told us the shortages are the result of hoarders and opportunists...

I must plead guilty on both counts. Whenever I have the "opportunity" to buy some usable powder at a fair price, I buy it!

My resulting sin is that I then "hoard it" with the intention of using it myself!

[William Davis]

I had to go on a hunt for suitable 20 G powders. I recommend anyone looking for substitutes go to one of the "relative quickness" charts list the powders that are about the same burn speed as the one you want then cross check with several loading manuals to confirm they are good alternates.

With half a dozen powders to chose from found a good supply of something I would not have thought about that is working very well

Bill